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1 Boehner blame game same old song and dance. on Fri May 30, 2014 10:21 pm

gypsy


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http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/30/john-boehner-shinseki-resignation-blame-president-obama-va-scandal.html        





Boehner made it clear that House Republicans are going into blame Obama mode, “His resignation, though, does not absolve the president of his responsibility to step in and make things right for our veterans. Business as usual can not continue. As a first step, the Senate should immediately take up the House passed VA Management Accountability Act. And until the president outlines a vision and an effective plan for addressing the broad dysfunction at the VA, today’s announcement really changes nothing. One personnel change can not be used as an excuse to paper over a systemic problem. Our veterans deserve better, and we’ll hold the president accountable until he makes things right.”

Speaker Boehner ignored everything that President Obama said earlier when he accepted Gen. Shinseki’s resignation.

During his announcement, the president said:



He’s (Shinseki) not adverse to admitting where there’s a problem and going after it. But we occupy a — not just an environment that calls for management fixes, we’ve also got to deal with Congress and you guys. And I think Ric’s judgment that he could not carry out the next stages of reform without being a distraction himself.
And so my assessment was, unfortunately, that he was right. I regret that he has to resign under these circumstances, but I also have confidence in Sloan, and I share Ric Shinseki’s assessment that the number-one priority is making sure that problems get fixed so that if there’s a veteran out there who needs help that they’re getting a schedule and they’re able to come in and see a doctor, and that if there are facilities that don’t have enough doctors or do not have enough nurses or do not have enough space, that that information immediately gets in the hands of decision-makers, all the way up to me and all the way to Congress, so that we can get more resources in there to help folks.
What Speaker Boehner tried to frame as the president papering over the problem was actually the removal of a distraction that Republicans could use to paper over the problem. The president also noted that a big part of the VA’s scheduling problem is that they are using a computer system from the 1990s. Rep. Boehner had no comment about the need for funding, so that the VA can upgrade their systems. Instead, Boehner’s only answer seems to be to fire people.

Republicans don’t seem all that interested in fixing the problems at the VA. They appear to be more interested in putting on a show by firing people and blaming the president.

It’s the same old song and dance. When the country needs a real solution, all Republicans are prepared to do is throw their arms in the air and blame Obama.

SSC


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Of course we blame Obama this is his watch and he has been well aware of issues for years and as with many things he has chosen to ignore it and play dumb even having the audacity to say he heard about it on the news ?? Really why compound an already bad situation with flagrant lies and then want to be insulted when he gets called on his lies. he used the VA during his run for office as one of his top priories, geee wonder what happened to that promise ?????

gypsy


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the blame game won't work because republicans are just as much to blame, the do nothing congress the worse in America's history, Again G"night

SSC


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All I am stating is Obama's words, maybe you believe and hang onto every thing he says as gospel, but in the real world he is a liar and compounds it with more lies. How do you trust someone like that to handle your future, I certainly don't, nor any of his cronies like Crazy harry and Nuts Nancy and now Shifty Hillary. A sorry lots in my eyes.

gypsy


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I know of nothing that he has lied about, .

SSC


Admin
If you like your Dr you can keep your DR. (Obamacare )
I just heard about this on the news (VA scandal )

need more ??

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gypsy


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SSC


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Don't you love it when sites you have referenced tell the truth :rotflslap: 

gypsy


Moderator
:rotflslap: 

SSC


Admin
I knew you would agree  

gypsy


Moderator
this is the site I use, not politfact
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/31/shinseki-resignation-mistake-democrats-fail-give-gop-narratives.html


 Razz


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This particular case concerns tennis champion Martina Navratilova who, while talking about Jason Collins joining the ranks of openly gay athletes on Face the Nation, claimed that in 29 states, you can get fired not only for being gay, but if your employer thinks you’re gay.

Politifact looked into Navratilova’s claim and found that she was correct on the number of states, and even posted stats backing up her claim, but ultimately ruled it as half-true because government employees in those states have protections, more local governments may have anti-discrimination laws, and individual employers can opt not to discriminate. But that still doesn’t detract from Navratilova’s claim being basically true, and Maddow tore into Politifact for quibbling over the facts.

She said that thank to “terrible” sites like Politifact, fact-checking has become “pointless” by trying to undermine the truth with unrelated information.

“The statement you were fact-checking is true, and until somebody figures out how to sue you in order to retrieve the meaning of the word fact from the dark and airless hole you have stuffed it into, Politifact, then no, it is not okay to just make this stuff up. You are truly terrible. Fact checking has to count for something, and Politifact, you are ruining it for everyone.”

12 Re: Boehner blame game same old song and dance. on Sat May 31, 2014 10:03 pm

SSC


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haha and of course that comes from your liberal bible site

13 Re: Boehner blame game same old song and dance. on Sat May 31, 2014 10:06 pm

gypsy


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like all yours come from the Republican sites~ WELL! WELL! guess we are in a equal match. Check!

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