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1 Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 12:17 am

SSC


Admin
95 year old
hero!
Letter To Obama
at Whitehouse Sent from 95 year Old Pearl Harbor Survivor !!


Fantastic!!


This venerable
and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii

for his
seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over
the country.


A humble man
without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a
government official, until now. He dictated this letter to a friend, signed
it and mailed it to the
president.


Dear President Obama,
My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me
for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II
retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor , allowing me to keep alive the memories
of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.

You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
"We're no longer a Christian nation"
"America is arrogant" - (Your wife even announced to the world," America is mean- spirited. " Please tell her to try preachingthat nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no
other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has
given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in theWhite House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and
shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died
for in the Civil War? Ihope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue . You were
elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still
treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force
to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the
mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this
fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.

You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now.

And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle..

Sincerely,

Harold B. Estes

Snopes confirms as true:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/haroldestes.asp
snopes.com: Letter to President Obama - Harold Estes
Letter from nonagenarian World War II veteran criticizes President Obama?
snopes.com

2 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 12:26 am

gypsy


Moderator
another made up email!when will we learn!
do you really believe this? SSC! or is this another spice it up? an to just
 think how nice the forum looked.oops! where is the link,oh I forgot this is a made up email.. good job SSC. would like the name of this veteran~ I think grasping,is happening again. thought we weren't
' going here again?

3 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 12:47 am

gypsy


Moderator
gypsy wrote:another made up email!when will we learn!
do you really believe this? SSC! or is this another spice it up? an to just
 think how nice the forum looked.oops! where is the link,oh I forgot this is a made up email.. good job SSC. would like the name of this veteran~ I think grasping,is happening again. thought we weren't
' going here again?

al
so checked this dude out no reference to him!

shipped out of that fancy rental? he is the president, going into second term,get over it Republicans,/SSC

I kept my word,on politics,you didn't.



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4 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 12:52 am

SSC


Admin
I included the snopes verification, this man was an American hero and on Armed Forces recognition weekend it is fitting to observe all who fought even if they don't fit our political views

5 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 12:54 am

SSC


Admin
Jesus Gyp you can't read his name Harold Estes, click the Snopes link and read it all for yourself

6 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 1:11 am

gypsy


Moderator
yes I read his name the post is an old email,never happened. you have started the old BS again,,Why? what can you prove? Remember ssc you denounced snopes long ago, so in your face, so what does your DUD accomplish? if you think,I will be angry or graphic,won't happen sweet cheeks, I think that is one of your statements. :wavey:HEART AND SOUL,IS NOT REPUBLICAN. Winners are those who help others also you stated to not debate me, if you do want to, put something more substantial than the email.

7 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 9:50 am

SSC


Admin
So sorry to have offended your fragile liberal ego, this letter was confirmed by your precious Snopes, I wasn't starting a battle nor a debate with you, I felt it was a fitting post, sorry to have upset your as you say sweet cheeks. I figure since it has been verified you couldn't dispute it but guess I was wrong, you took it to heart and jumped on it negative mark and all. This at the time was a 93 year old WWII Vets opinion, he passed away at the age of 96. A highly decorated Veteran, and no where in the post does it list his political party. So all your jumping to conclusion you have no idea if he is a Dem or a Repub. He was just a man and his words of wisdom to a young president at the time, of course he took offense to Obama and Michelle putting down the country he had defended, but in the military he was very well thought of as well as the state of Hawaii. Maybe had you read the context with an open mind you would have understood the mans point and not immediately accused me of posting a bogus e-mail. This was not meant as political post, this was once again an opinion by a man who earned the right to express his views.

8 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 10:20 am

SSC


Admin
In brief these statements below are what give everyone the right to express their opinion.


first amendment (Free speech), noun freedom of expression, freedom of right to assemble, freedom of speech, freedom of the right to petition, freedom to amass, freedom to express an opinion, right of free speech
Associated concepts: Bill of Rights, slanderfirst amendment (Freedom of right to assemble), noun freedom to amass, freedom to collect, freedom to gatherfirst amendment (Freedom of the press), noun freedom to express an opinion, freedom to print, freedom to publish, freedom to write
Associated concepts: libelfirst amendment (Freedom of the right to petition), noun freedom of the right to challenge, freedom of the right to oppose, freedom of the right to speak out
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/first+amendment

9 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 10:20 am

runawayhorses


Owner
SSC's post was not directed at you gypsy. I see no problem in posting an email such as that. If you took it as a topic that involves you or your beliefs I think you should reevaluate and consider you were not mentioned in it. I think ignoring the post would have been your best course of action. Simply because you don't agree with it or think its an untrue letter is no reason to take it personally. Everyone is free to express their opinion even if it conflicts with someone else.

10 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 10:39 am

SSC


Admin
Thanks Mark !!

11 Re: Thank you for your service and RIP on Mon May 19, 2014 1:34 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I agree Mark will therefore not respond, again .

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