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1 WOW! on Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:30 am

Candy Cottingham


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2 Re: WOW! on Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:44 pm

SSC


Admin
That is about 100 miles from me at Corn Bayou, it is old salt mines owned by a Texas petro company, they were used for underground storage. It started about a year ago, so they intend on buying out the homes in the area. It swallowed another huge tree this morning, so far it covers about 25 acres.

3 Re: WOW! on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:02 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Thats actually good news for some home owners that want to sell their houses, now they should get top dollar for them.

4 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:17 pm

SSC


Admin
Yes Tyler, Texas Brine owns the land the home owners have been evacuated for over a year, and with no solution or end in sight the buy out process is starting.

5 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:19 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Good Luck to the home owners..another mistake,disaster  for greed. I hope the home owners get top dollar.

6 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:24 pm

SSC


Admin
What are you talking about Gypsy ? Greed ? That makes no sense. There are thousands of old salt mines in La. that were either leased or sold, some have been used for storage. Salt mining was not for greed, underground storage is not for greed... Explain your logic in your assumption please.

7 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:44 pm

gypsy


Moderator
'll take a crack at translating it.

Mirror for Original

Basically, north of the Gulf of Mexico there's an underground salt layer with lots of salt "domes" over methane and natural gas deposits. Texas Brine Co. was mining for salt and the wall of the dome collapsed, and since most of southern Louisiana is below sea level, the hole instantly filled with groundwater.

Now, they're measuring the depth with sonar and they're getting wild results between 140ft and 500ft. It could be technical malfunction (that's my hypothesis) since the bottom is filled with semi-liquid mud, methane pockets, and sediment. It could also be a highly dynamic area of collapses and fill-ins. In addition, every month or so there's a big rush of released methane that breaches the surface with a SPLOOSH and changes the bottom of the sinkhole. The sediment down there is just going haywire.

So residents nearby want to get the hell out of there because this sinkhole is growing and going crazy. Likely, the "waves" are because the collapsing dome or existing groundwater made a little channel that runs between the Gulf of Mexico and the sinkhole.

Source: I'm an Environmental Scientist with a little experience in cave-ins around the Great Lakes, which means someone smarter can correct my inaccuracies.





The company specializes in a process known as injection mining, and it had sunk a series of wells deep into the salt dome, flushing them out with high-pressure streams of freshwater and pumping the resulting saltwater to the surface. From there, the brine is piped and trucked to refineries along the Mississippi River and broken down into sodium hydroxide and chlorine for use in manufacturing everything from paper to medical supplies.

What happened in Bayou Corne, as near as anyone can tell, is that one of the salt caverns Texas Brine hollowed out — a mine dubbed Oxy3 — collapsed. The sinkhole initially spanned about an acre. Today it covers more than 24 acres and is an estimated 750 feet deep. It subsists on a diet of swamp life and cypress trees, which it occasionally swallows whole.

8 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:31 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I meant to add, it is called fracking,which none of it is good for preservation of communities, and Earth.

Can't go into much more detail,without getting political..

9 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:56 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Thats some interesting information, but it doesn't explain SSC's question, which was how does "greed" come into play on this?




10 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:01 pm

gypsy


Moderator
They sell the salt or whatever they are fracking for,they don't care about how it affects people, or our environment.  remember this  is a Texas mining company, what is their purpose but make money.  all about money and greed. this may make it more clear.


Dangers of Fracking

www.dangersoffracking.com/

Hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking”, is the process of drilling and injecting fluid into the ground at a high pressure in order to fracture shale rocks to release natural ...Regulations, need to be highly enforced.

11 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:16 pm

SSC


Admin
Still don't see greed, nor politics, I see companies working, employing workers and providing materials for manufacture...Fracking has been done for a very long time and very successful. This is a freak situation...I see you are playing the rating game again...Guess 2 can play that if need be . I don't care if you don't like my posts, nor me , but must it become a reputation issue. Really Gyp, kinda childish don't ya think.

12 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:23 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I agree. childish is  very adamant here,the feature is a form of getting to respond to posts, which I don't have.it is a forum where all should as members have a voice. thanks for,that reminder.. In this day and age fracking is very political..I am totally against it,to many freak disasters involved.
taking a way points and just supplying them to others is also very childish,we are suppose to earn them, if one feels negative about a post, then my all means give me a minus,or plus, that is their freedom. I am also finished discussing the subject on fracking, it is very political.. I have expressed my thoughts on this,I intend to start no arguments.

13 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:22 pm

SSC


Admin
Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, has played an important role in the development of America's oil and natural gas resources for nearly 60 years. In the U.S., an estimated 35,000 wells are processed with the hydraulic fracturing method; it’s estimated that over one million wells have been hydraulically fractured since the first well in the late 1940s. Each well is a little different, and each one offers lessons learned. The oil and natural gas production industry uses these lessons to develop best practices to minimize the environmental and societal impacts associated with development. Studies estimate that up to 80 percent of natural gas wells drilled in the next decade will require hydraulic fracturing to properly complete well setup. Horizontal drilling is a key component in the hydraulic fracturing process. In short, this makes it possible for shale oil extraction to produce oil and natural gas in places where conventional technologies are ineffective. Hydraulic fracturing involves the use of water pressure to create fractures in rock that allow the oil and natural gas it contains to escape and flow out of a well. This process takes places under tight regulatory control. - See more at: http://www.energyfromshale.org/hydraulic-fracturing/what-is-fracking

14 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:17 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Fracking a fairly new technique.. a different view

an interesting read, a bit different  analysis..

Fracking Can Be Done Safely, but Will It Be?:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-fracking-be-done-without-impacting-water


May 17, 2013 ... That's because there are many ways for things to go wrong with a .... If it was so safe, why does fracking get to play by different rules than ..

another look at fracking

EPA Says Fracking Is Safe But an Internal Report Says Different

Aug 5, 2013 ... It must be a tricky thing being the Environmental Protection Agency, especially when it comes to the political minefield that



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15 Re: WOW! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:53 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
It obviously must be tricky for you to copy an entire article to its completion.  

16 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:45 am

gypsy


Moderator
LOL no! I thought I was not suppose to put lengthy articles.. and I have been doing some studying about fracking.will have to wait and see the outcome..

17 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:09 am

runawayhorses


Owner
That's true, we don't want to go back to seeing mile long copy & paste articles when a link to the page will suffice, however, completing the sentence of a paragraph would have been nice.

18 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:51 pm

meemoon


Veteran
I want as many negative votes as I can get. I wanna see what the rating system does with a negative value. I have never given a fuck what people think about what I have said.

19 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:05 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Well it would read something like this below in your "Reputation" count:

If you had a negative value of 15 points it would simply read like this:

Reputation: -15



20 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:40 pm

gypsy


Moderator
runawayhorses wrote:It obviously must be tricky for you to copy an entire article to its completion.  
well! one thing I can do well is post music and videos.. 

21 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:42 pm

gypsy


Moderator
gypsy wrote:Fracking a fairly new technique.. a different view

an interesting read, a bit different  analysis..

Fracking Can Be Done Safely, but Will It Be?:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-fracking-be-done-without-impacting-water

May 17, 2013 ... That's because there are many ways for things to go wrong with a .... If it was so safe, why does fracking get to play by different rules than ..

another look at fracking

EPA Says Fracking Is Safe But an Internal Report Says Different

Aug 5, 2013 ... It must be a tricky thing being the Environmental Protection Agency, especially when it comes to the political minefield that
Tyler delete this post of mine, if you will none of it showing up,says page missing. Thank you:



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22 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:00 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
gypsy wrote:
Tyler delete this post of mine, if you will none of it showing up,says page missing. Thank you:
This one you just wrote or the one at the top of the page?

23 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:10 pm

gypsy


Moderator
runawayhorses wrote:
gypsy wrote:
Tyler delete this post of mine, if you will none of it showing up,says page missing. Thank you:
This one you just wrote or the one at the top of the page?
the one about fracking and shows a link>it is not working.yes at the top of this page.Embarassed 

24 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:19 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
I did better than that, I just fixed the link.. smile 

25 Re: WOW! on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:21 pm

gypsy


Moderator
ok thanks:)

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