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1 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:15 pm

gypsy


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of America wealthiest pay none or very little in taxes, they don't spend money to help the economy,they have everything they want, they don't contribute to hiring or producing the work forces we so desperately need, the business records show they have laid off more in the last three years than at any other time. their wealth brings money or capital gain and they pay nothing on that because of repubs,loopholes and bushes tax plan which I hope expires. in other words the 2%wealthiest do nothing to build this country.. they also2% control most everything in this country, we are becoming another third world country, like Russia,Germany and others. they have to be made to pay their part, no more sweet candy for the wealthiest!!!

2 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:28 pm

runawayhorses


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The wealthiest will always control things as history has shown in years past. They run things and always will. They are the real power in this country. Forget about the politicians, they are there only to give you the illusion that you have some say in the matter. You don't, the wealthy control you and run this country.

The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice Ö you donít.

You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. Theyíve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.
They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying Ö lobbying, to get what they want Ö Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but Iíll tell you what they donít want Ö they donít want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.

They donít want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyíre not interested in that Ö that doesnít help them. Thatís against their interests. Thatís right. They donít want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly theyíre getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckiní years ago. They donít want that.

You know what they want? They want obedient workers Ö Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now theyíre coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckiní retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? Theyíll get it Ö theyíll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckiní place. Itís a big club and you ainít in it. You and I are not in The big club.

By the way, itís the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.

Good honest hard-working people Ö white collar, blue collar it doesnít matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means Ö continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who donít give a fuck about you. They donít give a fuck about you Ö they donít give a fuck about you. They donít care about you at all Ö at all Ö at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thatís what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thatís being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. Itís called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it Ö

3 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:45 pm

gypsy


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yes these Quote/are fighting back/Good honest hard-working people Ö white collar, blue collar it doesnít matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means Ö continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who donít give a fuck about you. They donít give a fuck about you Ö they donít give a fuck about you. They donít care about you at all Ö at all Ö at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thatís what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thatís being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. Itís called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it Öand no the wealthiest have not always ruled, the political corruption,Repubs

who these wealthy pay to oppress the working class, it has not always been that way in the 20,30's yes but after the depression your wealthy were hurting also so we all fought to build this country to greatness, now the republican party wants to take us back to that era, aint going to happen because there will be a real class warfare, not what the whinebabies(pugs) are declaring now is.

4 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:57 pm

runawayhorses


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I rarely copy and paste but if you didn't notice that was George Carlin.




5 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:30 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I did notice LOL

6 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:25 pm

Guest


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The wealthy will always control things? Carlin is a funny guy but here's some STATISTICS published by The American Heritage Foundation:

Federal Spending per Household Is Skyrocketing
The federal government is spending more per household than ever before. Since 1965, spending per household has grown by nearly 162 percent, from $11,431 in 1965 to $29,401 in 2010. From 2010 to 2021, it is projected to rise to $35,773, a 22 percent increase.

Federal Spending Is Growing Faster Than Federal Revenue
Since 1965, spending has risen constantly. Federal revenues have dropped recently due to the economic recession, but spending has reached a record high.

Federal Spending Grew More Than Ten Times Faster Than Median Income
When federal spending grows faster than Americans' paychecks, the burden on taxpayers becomes greater. Over the past few decades, middle-income Americans' earnings have risen only 27 percent, while spending has increased 299 percent.

Federal Spending Is Outpacing Inflation
Prices of goods and services normally rise year to year, but federal spending has risen even faster. Although spending grew substantially after 9/11, less than half of the increase can be attributed to defense and homeland security spending.

Total Government Spending Has More Than Doubled Since 1965
State and local government spending per household imposes a significant, and growing, burden on taxpayers on top of federal spending. In 1970, median household income was $17,839 greater than total government spending per household, compared to only $2,431 in 2009.

Mandatory Spending Has Increased Five Times Faster Than Discretionary Spending
Only one-third of the federal budget, discretionary spending, is subject to annual budgets. The remainder, mandatory spending, is set on autopilot without congressional debate and has increased more than five times faster than discretionary spending. Most of the current increase is due to entitlement spending.

Defense Spending Has Declined While Entitlement Spending Has Increased
Spending on national defense, a core constitutional function of government, has declined significantly over time, despite wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Spending on the three major entitlementsóSocial Security, Medicare, and Medicaidóhas more than tripled.


More Than Half of the President's Budget Would Be Spent on Entitlement Programs
In combination with other entitlements, such as food stamps, unemployment, and housing assistance, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security constitute the lion's share of President Obama's 2012 budget. In contrast, spending on foreign aid represents 2 percent.

Total Welfare Spending Is Rising Despite Attempts at Reform
Total means-tested welfare spending (cash, food, housing, medical care, and social services for the poor) has increased 17-fold since the beginning of Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty in 1964. Though the current trend is unsustainable, the Obama Administration plans to increase future welfare spending rather than enact true policy reforms.

Runaway Spending, Not Inadequate Tax Revenue, Is Responsible for Future Deficits
The main driver behind long-term deficits is government spendingónot low revenues. While revenue will surpass its historical average of 18.0 percent of GDP by 2021, spending will shoot past its historical average of 20.3 percent, reaching 26.4 percent in the same year.

Federal Revenue
Taxes per Household Have Risen Dramatically
Though the economic downturn has temporarily lowered overall tax revenues, the tax burden on Americans is still high.

The Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 70 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
Top earners are the target for new tax increases, but the U.S. tax system is already highly progressive. The top 1 percent of income earners paid 38 percent of all federal income taxes in 2008, while the bottom 50 percent paid only 3 percent. Forty-nine percent of U.S. households paid no federal income tax at all.

Federal Revenues Have More Than Tripled Since 1965
Overall tax revenues have risen despite a recent decline due to the recession. Congress cut income taxes and the death tax in 2001 and capital gains taxes and dividends in 2003, yet revenues continued to surge even after the tax cuts were passed.

Federal Revenues by Source
Most federal revenues come from individuals. Personal income taxes provide the largest portion of total tax revenues, though some of this is small-business income. Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes are the second-largest source.

Tax Receipts Return to Historical Average
The overall tax burden on Americans is measured as a share of gross domestic product (GDP). Since World War II, tax receipts have averaged around 18 percent of GDP. Receipts have fallen due to the recession, but as the economy recovers, they will rise above the average level by the end of the decade.

Increasing Tax Rates Does Not Necessarily Lead to Higher Income Tax Receipts
Tax cuts can create incentives for individuals to generate more income, which can generate more revenue. The most dramatic decline in the top individual income tax rate, from 70 percent to 28 percent, occurred during the Reagan Administration, during which tax receipts remained relatively constant as a share of the economy.

U.S. Corporate Tax Rate Is Uncompetitive
High U.S. federal and state corporate tax rates make it difficult for businesses to compete internationally. While other countries are reducing corporate tax rates, the U.S. is virtually tied with Japan for the highest and has maintained rates significantly and consistently higher than the average of industrialized nations.

Total Tax Burden Is Rising to Highest Level in History
Taxes are projected to increase rapidly under various policy scenarios. If the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire and more middle-class Americans are required to pay the alternative minimum tax (AMT), taxes will reach unprecedented levels. The tax burden will climb even if those tax breaks are extended. President Obama's budget, which cuts some taxes and raises others, also increases the overall tax burden.
Debt and Deficits

National Debt Set to Skyrocket
In the past, wars and the Great Depression contributed to rapid but temporary increases in the national debt. Over the next few decades, runaway spending on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will drive the debt to unsustainable levels.

Each American's Share of National Debt Is Growing
As Washington continues to spend more than it can afford, future generations of taxpayers will be on the hook for increasing levels of debt. The amount of debt per citizen will skyrocket.

Obama's Budget Would Send Federal Debt to Levels Not Seen Since World War II
In 2008, publicly held debt as a percentage of the economy (GDP) was 40.3 percent, nearly four points below the postwar average. Since then, the debt has increased more than 50 percent, and the President's FY 2012 budget would more than double it to 87.4 percent by 2021.

Obama's Budget Worsens Debt Problem, but The Heritage Plan Solves It
Spending in the President's budget proposal for 2012 would drive the debt to 87 percent of the economy by 2021. In contrast, Saving the American Dream: The Heritage Plan to Fix the Debt, Cut Spending, and Restore Prosperity solves the debt problem through strong budget reforms, lowering debt to 58 percent of GDP in just 10 years.

Obama's Budget Would Deepen Already Unprecedented Deficits
The President is responsible for submitting an annual budget to Congress and has the authority to veto legislation, including irresponsible spending. Most Administrations have run small but manageable deficits, but President Obama's unprecedented budget deficits pose serious economic risks.

Federal Budget Deficits Will Reach Levels Never Seen Before in the U.S.
Recent budget deficits have reached unprecedented levels, but the future will be much worse. Unless entitlements are reformed, spending on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will drive deficits to unmanageable levels.

Rising Deficits Drive U.S. Debt Limit Higher, Faster
Congress first placed a statutory limit on total federal debt in 1917, in the Second Liberty Bond Act. Since 1962, Congress has altered the debt limit through 74 separate measures, raising it 10 times since 2001. Since 1990, the debt limit has been raised a total of $10.1 trillion, but nearly half of that increase has occurred since September 2007.

U.S. Debt on Track to Fuel Economic Crisis
Countries like Greece and Portugal have suffered or are anticipating financial crises as a result of mounting debt. If the U.S. continues federal deficit spending on its current trajectory, it will face similar economic woes.

Net Interest Spending Will More Than Triple Over the Next Decade
As the national debt grows, interest payments will consume more and more of the federal budget, even without interest rate increases. Under the President's budget, the national debt would double and real net interest costs would more than triple over the next decade.
In One Year, Spending on Interest on the National Debt Is Greater Than Funding for Most Programs
In 2010, the U.S. spent more on interest on the national debt than it spent on many federal departments, including Education and Veterans Affairs.

Entitlements
Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security Will Consume All Tax Revenues in 2049
If the average historical level of tax revenue is extended, spending on Medicare, Medicaid and the Obamacare subsidy program, and Social Security will consume all revenues by 2049. Because entitlement spending is funded on autopilot, no revenue will be left to pay for other government spending, including constitutional functions such as defense.

Entitlement Spending Will More Than Double by 2050
Spending on Medicare, Medicaid and the Obamacare subsidy program, and Social Security will soar as 78 million baby boomers retire and health care costs climb. Total spending on federal health care programs will triple.
Medicare Spending Is Adding to Future Deficits Faster Than Other Program Spending
Entitlement spending is the main cause of long-term runaway deficits. While reform must address spending within each program, Medicare is the largest driver due to the effects of an aging population and rising health care costs.

Without Entitlement Reform, Federal Spending Could Consume One-Half of the Economy by 2056
The major entitlementsóMedicare, Medicaid, the Obamacare subsidy program, and Social Securityó are on track to push spending to unsustainable levels. These programs must be reformed in order to improve the long-term budget outlook.

Letting Tax Cuts Expire Will Not Balance the Budget
Some argue for allowing the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts to expire, including subjecting the middle class to the alternative minimum tax in order to balance the budget. Under this scenario, unaffordable deficit spending would still continue, and economic growth and job creation would suffer.

Hiking Taxes to Pay for Entitlements Would Require Doubling Tax Rates
The cost of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is rising substantially. Paying for this spending solely through federal income tax increases would require more than a twofold increase of current tax rates, even for the lowest tax bracket.

Taxing the Wealthy to Cover Future Deficits Won't Work
Some argue for taxing only the wealthy to raise revenues and reduce federal deficits. However, hiking taxes on these taxpayers would increase their tax rates to mathematically impossible levels. To close the 2035 deficit, the top two rates would increase to 139 percent and 150 percent, and in 2050 they would reach 206 percent and 223 percent.

Balancing the Budget Without Cutting Spending Would Cause Taxes to Skyrocket America is running massive deficits, and a balanced budget requirement is often considered a way to rein in red ink. Without serious entitlement and other spending reforms, the level of taxes required to balance the federal budget would reach economically stagnating levels.

Discretionary Spending Cuts Alone Are Not an Adequate Substitute for Entitlement Reform
Annual spending on entitlement programs is massive compared to other federal spending priorities. Cutting discretionary spending is a necessary step, but cuts to foreign aid alone or pulling out of Afghanistan will not close the deficit. Entitlement spending must be reined in.

Even Eliminating Vital Defense Spending Completely Would Not Solve the Entitlement Spending Problem
Long-term deficits are the result of unsustainable levels of spending on entitlement programs. Rather than tackle them directly, some would cut defense. But even if spending on this crucial national priority was eliminated completely, entitlements would continue to drive deficits to unmanageable levels.

(I am sorry for this VERY long ccp. The businesses in this country have put more people in cars and air-conditioned apartments/houses than in any other country. We have people on the dole with cell-phones,big screen tv's, washers and dryers, drinking bottled water and kids in dance school,etc. The wealthy wanna sell those things to you and pay you to make them. The government wants to take your income away and control it. So who is the "enemy"?)

7 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:03 pm

gypsy


Moderator
The wealthy and republicans are the enemy. pure and simple.an those who vote for them are sheeple and ignorant! they are not for the working class, more big businesses have laid people off in the last three years, if they want to help,pay their share of taxes, and put the people to work~they don't want big government, then don't vote, support the pugs!Also my social security is not an entitlement, I worked my ass off for 40 years i paid it in and my employer held out their share and paid it in. That is a fact!

8 Re: 2% on Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:25 pm

gypsy


Moderator
The small business are not the target for tax increases, we(middle class) pay somewhere in the 30 percent bracket while the wealthy pay none or a small 16%,maybe 9% since Reagan that is why this country has gone down hill,until Clinton brought us back and left a 6trillon dollar surplus,which bush wasted the first year and put this country in a deficit,which continued to plummet us into abyss..daddy and reagan started the downhill bush/cheney put the icing on the cake//Failures for 8 years. the first president to never have really been elected..

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