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Should schools ditch old-fashioned textbooks for digital books?

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runawayhorses


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Candy Cottingham


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what are digital books ...

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runawayhorses


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An electronic book (also e-book, ebook, digital book) is a book-length publication in digital form, consisting of text, images, or both, and produced on, published through, and readable on computers or other electronic devices.[1] Sometimes the equivalent of a conventional printed book, e-books can also be born digital. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines the e-book as "an electronic version of a printed book,"[2] but e-books can and do exist without any printed equivalent. E-books are usually read on dedicated hardware devices known as e-Readers or e-book devices. Personal computers and some cell phones can also be used to read e-books.


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Candy Cottingham


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WoW!!

But still nice to use pencil and paper...not chalk and slate though...too messy.

Children do use the computer a lot to swat up for home work.

They still teach kids about the Romans but leave out the blood and gore.
Barbaric lot they were. They enjoyed crucifying (put to death by nailing to a cross...nail went through fore arm not hands)

about 500 people a day....if they did not die quick enough they broke the bones in their legs which finished them off in 10mins or scewered them in the side with a sword. Which is what a Roman did to Jesus to make sure he was dead..

Wonder why someone handed up Jesus some Vinigar and Myrre on a pole to wet his lips.
Myrre.... substance that was formerly used in religious rites and in embalming...BUT WHY THE VINIGAR?

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gypsy


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I think upgrading is good to digital,but lets keep some of the old classic values,lets not get to technical,we are very close now to, to much~to, to is called something in English by using double wording, somethings in a sentence?? LOL

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I just bought a Kindle and LOVE the thing. But these devices have access to the net. Not good for young eyes. Would we allow hard-core porn in school libraries? No. But data-readers have a place in the educational system. We need a directed application and design and make any devices that are adopted available to all students instead of optional to just those who can afford one.

runawayhorses


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I agree Moon. They can make those ebooks so they don't have internet access. Maybe alter them somehow. We wouldn't want the kids to be surfing porn sites while at school. Or making moves at game sites or sending emails etc. The Internet would have to be unavailable for the devices. And the schools could buy them for the students to use. The schools could probably get a discount for buying them in bulk for there schools. It would take some thinking through on how all it would all play out but it seems reasonable to think it could work. That would be very convenient for the students because for one thing they wouldn't have to carry books around all day. I never used one before but I know a little about them. I like the idea.

gypsy


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I Also Agree Tyler~

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runawayhorses wrote:I agree Moon. They can make those ebooks so they don't have internet access. Maybe alter them somehow. We wouldn't want the kids to be surfing porn sites while at school. Or making moves at game sites or sending emails etc. The Internet would have to be unavailable for the devices. And the schools could buy them for the students to use. The schools could probably get a discount for buying them in bulk for there schools. It would take some thinking through on how all it would all play out but it seems reasonable to think it could work. That would be very convenient for the students because for one thing they wouldn't have to carry books around all day. I never used one before but I know a little about them. I like the idea.
As I said previously, I just got a basic Kindle and was very pleasantly surprised at it's capabilities. But as you say, a much more basic unit can,and I believe should,be made available to schools. The Kindle is clearly set up to be an extension of Amazon.com. and thus a marketing tool. It has a "shop at amazon" button that makes the internet connection mandatory. However, I don't use that. I visit amazon and pre-view my books before I buy them (I prefer the free ones and there are thousands) A system that allows kids to download books directly from the school library would seem to be the simplest answer.They could also download books directly from their pc's with (hopefully) parental supervision. I don't think it's just a matter of convenience.

I used to irritate my teachers by consistently reading ahead in my books and getting ahead of the lesson plan. Irritating,but I made "A's".

This seems to me to be an application of technology that would be a boon to the whole educational process. That means it won't get done. The book publishers would surely find the right Congressmen/women to bribe.

rosco 357


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here it would come down to money, they maybe cheaper in the long run but right now no way the county could afford them, they are in bad shape going to close some sheriff sub stations including mine, and lay off over 100 sheriffs off and have already closed some of the satellite tax places where u get car tags and pay property tax,etc. and such, also closed mine, there is a court battle over an occupational tax, half a percent, they have been collecting for years, its in court now, but financially the county is in bad shape, mostly due to poor job the elected officials have done,year before last when i mailed in my car tag renewal they had such a lay off of workers , my tag was one month late coming, and i sent it as soon as i got it, but the police were not suppose to give out tickets,but last year my satellite station opened back up, so i just stopped and did not mail,, but its closed again now.

runawayhorses


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Well, Florida is rich we can afford it.

Moon makes a point that the devices could download from the school library. Or the schools could manage them and have all the books already downloaded and on the devices. Many things to think about along those lines.

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rosco 357 wrote:here it would come down to money, they maybe cheaper in the long run but right now no way the county could afford them, they are in bad shape going to close some sheriff sub stations including mine, and lay off over 100 sheriffs off and have already closed some of the satellite tax places where u get car tags and pay property tax,etc. and such, also closed mine, there is a court battle over an occupational tax, half a percent, they have been collecting for years, its in court now, but financially the county is in bad shape, mostly due to poor job the elected officials have done,year before last when i mailed in my car tag renewal they had such a lay off of workers , my tag was one month late coming, and i sent it as soon as i got it, but the police were not suppose to give out tickets,but last year my satellite station opened back up, so i just stopped and did not mail,, but its closed again now.
It's been over a 100 years (seems like) since I was in public school but we had to buy our books. Even then,it was a burden to my single parent mom. Here's the potential economics: The publisher produces an e-version of a textbook. 2) They sell this download at a per unit royalty equivalent to the potential profit on the printed book. 3) If the school system is one that provides books, this would save that system huge money. 4) If it is a system that requires parents to buy books, the parents would have the option of paying the much lower download fee/royalty. It would also make providing books for underpriviledged kids much cheaper. It's a win-win-win.



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rosco 357


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well the state is ok ,, and lots of rich ppl in this county that is part of the problem , the common worker pays half a percent occupational tax, but the doctors and lawyers and professional ppl like that dont have to pay it, they only pay for a license and its not much, so they get out of it, thats one reason it is in court,, but we have had it for really now as long as i can remember, anyway time to eat, they are still collecting it but may not be spending it, because it may be reversed, but im really not sure, take care

rosco 357


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meemoon wrote:It's been over a 100 years (seems like) since I was in public school but we had to buy our books. Even then,it was a burden to my single parent mom. Here's the potential economics: The publisher produces an e-version of a textbook. 2) They sell this download at a per unit royalty equivalent to the potential profit on the printed book. 3) If the school system is one that provides books, this would save that system huge money. 4) If it is a system that requires parents to buy books, the parents would have the option of paying the much lower download fee/royalty. It would also make providing books for underpriviledged kids much cheaper. It's a win-win-win.

my first few years in school we had to buy books, we bought other ppls books my mom had a friend she got her sons books for me, we bought them, and they had stores that opened for books, but like 6th grade, George Wallace stopped parents from having to buy books,and the state started buying all school books,

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"lots of rich ppl in this county that is part of the problem"

How is it the "rich people's" fault that your lawmakers have overspent to an extent that they must impose an "occupational tax"??? Are you saying it would be better if your government overtaxed EVERYBODY?

rosco 357


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no just saying every person should be under the same rule, we have had this tax as long as i can remember, take care,

gypsy


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rosco 357 wrote:
meemoon wrote:It's been over a 100 years (seems like) since I was in public school but we had to buy our books. Even then,it was a burden to my single parent mom. Here's the potential economics: The publisher produces an e-version of a textbook. 2) They sell this download at a per unit royalty equivalent to the potential profit on the printed book. 3) If the school system is one that provides books, this would save that system huge money. 4) If it is a system that requires parents to buy books, the parents would have the option of paying the much lower download fee/royalty. It would also make providing books for underpriviledged kids much cheaper. It's a win-win-win.

my first few years in school we had to buy books, we bought other ppls books my mom had a friend she got her sons books for me, we bought them, and they had stores that opened for books, but like 6th grade, George Wallace stopped parents from having to buy books,and the state started buying all school books,
you know my family worked hard three jobs my dad did,of course back when I was a child Mom's stayed home and did family care,I am not knocking now,but we did lose family values
Education is the key to progress,jobs economic growth
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rosco 357 wrote:no just saying every person should be under the same rule, we have had this tax as long as i can remember, take care,
Tell your legislators to spend 1% less and stop punishing you with extra taxes or you'll vote their sorry asses outta office.

gypsy


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Lots of rich people??can't expose,but read farther down! this is the problem/the person ,whish washy?

almajean


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Candy Cottingham wrote:WoW!!

But still nice to use pencil and paper...not chalk and slate though...too messy.

Children do use the computer a lot to swat up for home work.

They still teach kids about the Romans but leave out the blood and gore.
Barbaric lot they were. They enjoyed crucifying (put to death by nailing to a cross...nail went through fore arm not hands)

about 500 people a day....if they did not die quick enough they broke the bones in their legs which finished them off in 10mins or scewered them in the side with a sword. Which is what a Roman did to Jesus to make sure he was dead..

Wonder why someone handed up Jesus some Vinigar and Myrre on a pole to wet his lips.
Myrre.... substance that was formerly used in religious rites and in embalming...BUT WHY THE VINIGAR?

21 Vinegar or just wine gone bad? on Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:58 am

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I have no idea why Roman soldiers would pass wine or vinegar to a crucified person but I've read a number of references to "wormy bread and vinegar" being the only food left on too long ocean trips. We know that ships' crews carried many amphorae of wine on voyages but wine has a shelf life and will spoil into vinegar if left in the jar too long.

Trivia: The ancient Greeks and Romans consumed huge amounts of wine because water was untrustworthy (They knew nothing adout microbes in sewage laden river water) and every body in the family drank it. This led to the mass production of bulk wine stored in cheap, unglazed amphorae (clay pots). Unfortunately,this led to the rapid destruction of the jugs so to avoid that, the jugs would be lined with "pitch" (tar). Ughhh! The soultion for drinkable wine was to add honey, "mulled wine".

More trivia: The ancient Persians would take water filled jugs to high elevations and bury them in the ground. Overnight at low temps, the water would leach out of the jars into the surrounding soil thus inducing a direct evaporation and freezing. The slushy water-ice would have fruit juice added producing a sherbert like treat commonly offered to any guest of the nobility and was considered a mandatory sign of respect to the visitor. The process was also used to produce wine with a higher alcohol content reaching 13%

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