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rosco 357


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my words ,lots of articles on bin laden on aol,welcome screen, i know some is old news,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/bin-laden-raid-train_n_858315.html


WASHINGTON -- Holed up in a compound in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden was scheming how to hit the United States hard again, according to newly uncovered documents that show al-Qaida plans for derailing an American train on the upcoming 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Details of the plan emerged Thursday as some of the first intelligence was gleaned from the trove of information found in bin Laden's residence when Navy SEALs killed the al-Qaida leader and four of his associates. They took his body and scooped up computers, DVDs and documents from the compound where U.S. officials think he had been living for as long as six years.

The confiscated materials reveal the rail attack planning as of February 2010. One idea outlined in handwritten notes was to tamper with an unspecified U.S. rail track so that a train would fall off the track at a valley or a bridge. Counterterrorism officials said they believe the plot was only in the initial planning stages, and there is no recent intelligence about any active plan for such an attack. The FBI and Homeland Security issued an intelligence bulletin with details of the plan to law enforcement around the country. The bulletin, marked "for official use only," was obtained by The Associated Press.

Other intelligence pulled from the compound represented a terrorist wish list but has revealed no specific plan so far. Some documents indicated a desire to strike the U.S. with large-scale attacks in major cities and on key dates such as anniversaries and holidays. But there never was any sign that those were anything more than ambitions, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the intelligence.

Even before the raid, intelligence officials for years had warned that al-Qaida was interested in attacking major U.S. cities on prominent dates on the American calendar.

Monday's raid by helicopter-borne SEALs was fraught with risk, sensationally bold and a historic success, netting a man who had been on the run for nearly a decade after his terrorist organization pulled off the devastating Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. During the raid, the SEALs met far less resistance than the Obama administration initially described. The commandos encountered gunshots from only one man, whom they quickly killed, before sweeping the house and shooting others, who were unarmed, a senior defense official said in the latest account.

The New York Times and Washington Post reported Thursday on their websites that a CIA surveillance team had been watching bin Laden's residence from a rented house near the compound for months. The agency declined to comment on the reports.

President Barack Obama visited New York's ground zero on Thursday during a somber and understated event where he avoided mentioning bin Laden by name.

The U.S. account of what happened inside bin Laden's Abbottabad compound is so far the only one most Americans have. Pakistan has custody of the people rounded up afterward, including more than two dozen children and women. Differing accounts purporting to be from witnesses have appeared in Pakistani and Arab media, and on the Internet.

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Intelligence analysts have been reviewing and translating the material seized from the compound, looking for information about pending plots and other terror connections. In light of the intelligence indicating al-Qaida was considering an attack on a U.S. railway, the FBI and Homeland Security told local officials to be on the lookout for clips or spikes missing from train tracks, packages left on or near the tracks and other indications that a train could be vulnerable.

"While it is clear that there was some level of planning for this type of operation in February 2010, we have no recent information to indicate an active ongoing plot to target transportation and no information on possible locations or specific targets," Thursday's warning to law enforcement said.

Homeland Security spokesman Matt Chandler said, "This alleged al-Qaida plotting is based on initial reporting, which is often misleading or inaccurate and subject to change." He said the government has no plans to issue an official terror alert because of it.

On Monday, the FBI and Homeland Security warned law enforcement officials around the country that bin Laden's death could inspire retaliatory attacks in the U.S., and terrorists not yet known to the intelligence community could be operating inside the country.

The transportation sector including U.S. railways continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. In the past few years, U.S. officials have disrupted other terror plots that targeted rails, including a 2009 plan to bomb the New York City subway system.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said she's urged the homeland security secretary to increase the country's threat level while the material seized from bin Laden's compound is reviewed.

"I continue to question the secretary's decision not to increase the threat level," said Collins, the top Republican on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Counterterrorism officials have been meeting regularly since bin Laden was killed to evaluate the threat to the U.S.

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Associated Press writers Adam Goldman and Matt Apuzzo contributed to this report.

runawayhorses


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Interesting, a good read.

I think we need to up our security at this time. I would up it if I were president. I know its been kicked up a few notches already but I'd kick it up another level. Its my understanding terrorists live here, and are plotting against us, we have to go to a higher level of security right now in my opinion. I think you will see that happen soon. A formal statement from the president will probably be coming soon about that.

We of course have jets patrolling everything and flying all over our homeland. Professional fighter jets and pilots armed and ready, top of the line, the best. People are looking at radars and all kinds of tech watching to make sure no one gets into this country or launches a bomb aimed at us. We will take them out if that happens. We are on guard.

We are basically safe, but the terrorists that are already here could be plotting. We have to keep our guard up on that issue.

We are the most powerful country in the world militarily, but terrorists that are already here is a big issue. Its hard to predict when someone strikes.

I would stop all incoming traffic to the US for awhile. Just the suspicious ones. Normal jet airlines I would allow to continue and trade cargo ships and planes but I would want all the passengers screened extensively, but anything else I would not allow them in this country at this time. Security would go up big-time. Lets see what Obama does.

Just my thoughts.

I would be remiss if I didn't post some videos.. lol There are two below:

rosco can be my wing Man anytime. :) I picture him and me in these jets working together.. lol Him flying one jet me flying another. We would have been a good team in that situation. If I was ever in the military I would have wanted to fly jets I think. But just for fun picture me as Mavrick (Tom Cruise) and rosco is Iceman (Val Kilmer) is my wing man, especially in the second video below.





rosco 357


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yep that was a good movie, i would love to fly or even fly in jets, when i had my physical for the army guard, i as u know lost my eardrum and after operations still have a 10 percent hole in it. that may have kept me out of the army in a draft physical but the guard physical, the dr. just restricted me to no airborne ranger, which i was not in anyway,i did fly some in some helicopters, i enjoyed that , the huey sled the called them, the ones u see in vietnam movied that have open sides, i sat on the side with nothing in front of me but sky,, lol,, sometimes i almost wish i had stayed in, i had to join for 6 years, if i had stayed 20 i would have got somekind of retirement at 60. but it screwed my weekends up, our work is picking up and i think im looking at having to work lots of weekend, thanks for the jet wingman thought, would have been fun,,take care,

runawayhorses


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Your welcome rosco was just having a little fun. I would be your wing Man too. lol That was a line from the movie at the end. Its one of my favorite movies.

Of course that movie was done in the 80's and our jets today now are way more advanced with newer technology. They are faster and more dangerous. But I like that movie.

rosco 357


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well u know some jets have a long lifetime, but are updated in technology, but if i remember correct, and i may not be, they were in f-14 tomcats, which was and is a good jet, the real older jets were the F-4. they used in vietnam, but in the movie if u remember . the agressor jets, the teachers flew were older jets the smaller jets, but they were fast and agile. i forget what jet it was, f-5 starfire, oh heck i dont know but an older fast jet but probably had less payload ,, i know i could look it up but im worn out about this time of day, but glad i got the new belt on the lawmower, thats a load off my mind, its not an easy job, i hope it stays on because i dont know how it broke, got my walmart shoping done, so far the cordizone shot in the shoulder, seems to be helping and not having to take advil, but its not a cure just for pain, i want to be well i have to many places to work, the lake will be a mess , i have not even been up there, well im rambling, take care,..

runawayhorses


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Well you would know more about that than me. I was never in the military.

When I was growing up there was no draft and I wasn't interested in joining at that time. I wanted to work in my home town someplace. I went to work at a hardware store. But looking back I think joining the military would have been a good career decision. Excellent healthcare benefits and retirement benefits. I have a friend that made a career out of the Coastguard. He spent I think about 25 years there, and he now gets medical for free and gets a check every month from the government.

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