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rosco 357


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http://abcnews.go.com/International/libya-international-military-coalition-launch-assault-gadhafi-forces/story?id=13174246

Pentagon: Over 110 Missiles Fired at 20 Targets Inside Libya

U.S. military officials have confirmed the first American tomahawk cruise missiles have been fired at targets inside Libya from ships in the Mediterranean Sea.


The move is the first direct U.S. involvement in the international operation mobilizing to stop Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's attacks on opposition strongholds and enforce a U.N.-backed no-fly zone.

Pentagon officials said there were 11 U.S. ships stationed in the Mediterranean Sea, including three submarines and two destroyers capable of firing cruise missiles, and several amphibious ships and supply ships.

The first strikes in what is being called "Operation Odyssey Dawn" were expected to target air defense missile sites around Tripoli, Misratah, and Surt, but no areas east of that or near Benghazi, officials said.

President Obama told members of Congress Friday that he had not yet authorized the use of U.S. planes, but a senior military official said Saturday that U.S. aircraft would be involved. It's unclear if those planes include bombers and fighters among support aircraft that could provide airborne surveillance, refueling and radar-jamming capabilities.

Earlier today, French warplanes destroyed several Libyan military vehicles, including tanks, in eastern Libya, as pro-Gadhafi forces battled towards the rebel stronghold of Benghazi, French Defense officials said.

At one point a fighter jet resembling a Libyan MiG 27 was shot down over the city, according to news reports from inside Libya.

Meanwhile, world leaders met in Paris to discuss the nature and scope of the international military intervention to make Gadhafi respect a U.N. Security Council resolution that authorized "all necessary measures" to protect Libyan civilians.

"Our planes are blocking the air attacks on the city" of Benghazi, French President Nicholas Sarkozy said following the meeting. It was also clear the effort would target ground forces, including tanks, that might be used against the Libyan people.

French, British and Canadian aircraft were expected to launch sorties as night falls over the country, ahead of a larger coalition deployment that could happen later in the day. Spain and Denmark have also contributed fighter planes to the international force.

"We have every reason to fear that left unchecked, Gadhafi would commit unspeakable atrocities," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters following the meeting in Paris. "Further delay will only put more civilians at risk. So let me be very clear on the position of the United States: We will support an international coalition as it takes all necessary measures to enforce" the U.N. resolution.

President Obama, in Brazil for the first stop on a trip to Latin America, told reporters the international consensus on Libya remained "strong, and our resolve is clear."

"The people of Libya must be protected," Obama said at a press conference with Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff. "And in the absence of an immediate end to the violence against civilians, our coalition is prepared to act and act with urgency."

Gadhafi warned the international coalition Friday not to interfere in Libyan affairs, calling the U.N. resolution "invalid" and appealing directly to world leaders, including President Obama, in a letter.

"Libya is not yours. Libya is for the Libyans," he said in the letter. "If you had found them taking over American cities with armed force, tell me what you would do."

The United States, Britain and France issued a joint statement late Friday, with backing from several Arab countries, warning the "international community will make him [Gadhafi] suffer the consequences" unless he stops the attacks, restores water, electric and gas services and allows humanitarian aid to enter the country.

rosco 357


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i decided to post the Libyan subject here, as to get away from local politics,, this is about Libya
i will just say i agree with TYLER, i was talking about how im glad France and Britain and italy, Spain and now Qatar and the United Arab Immigrants( UAE )will have their airforce involved once its safe, we fired and the british fired cruise missiles to take out air defense and its an old sam 5 russian air defense, we will do , bomb damage assessments . and fire more on what we missed and we will then fly in when BDA assessments show we achieved our goal, and those arab countries i mentioned suppose to use jets so its not just a western thing.UAE has a good airforce. lets hope we did not wait to late to do this as has been said. i was talking about this action in Libya. . but really all i wanted to talk about was the military aspect, thats why i mentioned the news said we may use the raptor jets, when we are sure it safe to fly,, . i dont want to get off the subject of how the military events are unfolding. please gypsy put any politics on a seperate subject like general . i dont care about state politics here on this Libyan subject. please again post all u want on politics but somewhere else please. this is obamas actions being taken. that is the only thing close to politics that is relevant. and all i am following is this military action,,and i agree with TYLER at times like these we are Americans period.. Qaddafi has we know mustard gas anyway,, he will hide , he knows he will go to the international court if captured and be hung so he has nothing to loose, i hope we kill him.. my only complaint is we waited a bit to late but hopefully in time to stop his ground forces, this has other countrys flying over now, but make no mistake, command and control is controlled by the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,as stated on cnn, from ppl that know.. take care

gypsy


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As I said God Bless America, we have to contend with another War!

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:As I said God Bless America, we have to contend with another War!

yep F-15 and F16 attacked his armor , and his troops today, near Benghazi , so our air force is now engaged,, well the old saying there will always be war and rumors of war,

gypsy


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That is all we needed , I am sure the warmongers are happy~some people get their jollies from war, killing, blowing up, and tearing down~~



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rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:That is all we needed , I am sure the warmongers are happy~

so obama is a warmonger???? this is his ball of wax, i have to go to my daughters by way of captain Ds , later,

gypsy


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nope I don't believe Obama is a warmonger.I am sure he was pressured by the pug congress~

runawayhorses


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gypsy wrote:nope I don't believe Obama is a warmonger.I am sure he was pressured by the pug congress~
Good grief Gypsy you are grasping at straws. You blame the war on republicans even with a democrat president that you voted for?. You are losing your creditably in this discussion with outlandish statements like that. Obama says what happens. This is not a republican or democrat issue. If you actually think republicans control him then you are not thinking factual. He controls the United States military, what he tells them to do they do. If you think he is corrupt then you are admitting democrats are no better than republicans. Your admitting your democrat president you voted for is corrupt.

I ask you then, why believe in anything government? Why support one party over another if they all are corruptible?

You need to quit your hate towards a particular party (republican) aside, it is blinding you. You are obsessed with the republicans. Let it go and focus on the issues.

Obama is YOUR president elect, and he elected to go to war. Live with it. Hes a democrat and he wanted to go to war. Yes, democrats start wars too. Your republican argument has no validity. You lost your point in this discussion because you have blinders on. You can't see the forest for the trees. You are focused on one thing, republicans.

Rosco politely asked you not to make this topic a republican and democrat issue.

gypsy


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True ,I was responding with, no I don't think Obama is a warmonger,but he wants to do what is right,with all the criticism from the other side,he doesn't want to be called un American. my creditability? is not war oriented, I see no reason for America to get involved
we need to pull out of two wars now~
like I said, his advisers need to reprogram themselves, ,I think they are giving him wrong advise, he still is my president of choice, and I think most things he does is right,I hope this act of attacking Libya is the right thing.I would be content in letting France,NATO and UN handle it..I think men have a different view on war than women.

I also think it is oil,because Libya is rich in oil ,but we only get 2% of that oil~

I wish i could agree with the three wars we are in,but I don't
I don't think it has anything to do with my creditability

I am not making it a political issue it already is,and differences from both sides wil emerge.so I will refrain from using the dems/pugs terms LOL

rosco 357


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i totally agree with tyler, word for word, obama was pressured by the pugs???? lol the republicans dont even control the senate, just the house, what u said is laughable. he did what he had to do. and im sure had extensive talks with the other countrys leaders and the arab league, that asked us to intervene , this is not a political issue, clinton used cruise missiles to punish some arabs countrys when the plot to assassinate george bush senior was uncovered. Truman i think did Korea, a democrat,democrats Kennedy and Johnson were deep in Vietnam , it took a republican Richard Nixon to end it. obama is a smart man and im sure is doing what he feels in his heart is the correct thing, no one pressured him unless it was france and Britain.it should have started 2 weeks ago. SORRY i had to respond, ur train is off the track.

gypsy


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I didn' t say the senate,I said the house, and there are discussions with both ,he just doesn't say ok we are going to attack Libya, your laughable also.
you like war! what will it do to help~anything?My train is right on track/what good will it do to bomb/attack them,more war is not the answer, what is,I have no idea,except to say we can't stand much more of war~I guess I am asking what is the purpose?

rosco 357


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i would imagine he mainly confers with the pentagon joint chief of staff. and experts there, and intel we probably have on the ground in libya and world leaders. u always cry oil. that is silly i have not even heard that mentioned on tv or anywhere.or see how it could play any part. its because his country is in a revolt and he Qaddafi has the weapons to kill them all and said he would , as obama said was one of the reasons we stepped in, and obama was in south america. i think brazil when he said that. but anyway. obama said go and we went, plain and simple he is the commander in chief of the military, and the leader of the free world

gypsy


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Deep in Vietnam? Kennedy and Johnson both inherited from Eisenhower. never the less who starts,defends wars, repub/dem this is no,we are in two wars,enough is enough,An Korea war was really never settled,.they still threatened South Korea a few years ago. any way, I am not war oriented/if we can win and it improves whatever it is suppose to improve,Yes!otherwise some don't work,my opinion--we are over extending~

gypsy


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they did announce oil rich country, from your station cnn//I hope it is a good reason,I hope we can solve issues



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rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:nope I don't believe Obama is a warmonger.I am sure he was pressured by the pug congress~

you did not say the house , u said Congress, the definition of congress is ,, the National legislative body of the United states, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives . as per the " American Heritage Dictionary" of the English Language, my college dictionary, they required students to have.

gypsy


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the house is Congress right?

rosco 357


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well obama said go, so now its his ball of wax as i said before, and i will only post on events that happen from this point on, i think ,,,lol, im gone take care

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:the house is Congress right?

nope the house is half of congress , he other half is the senate

rosco 357


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the house is just the house

gypsy


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Well, both is what I meant by Congress_house/senate~

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:Well, both is what I meant by Congress_house/senate~

ok u made my point the republicans do not control the senate, the dems do

gypsy


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however,most wars,decisions,are discussed by all//so it is political~ no matter how you look at it most things War/bills/legislative, is political~
~

gypsy


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rosco 357 wrote:
gypsy wrote:Well, both is what I meant by Congress_house/senate~

ok u made my point the republicans do not control the senate, the dems do

proved my point also,that all has to be approved,it is who has the majority!

if they all agree to attack Libya,then so be it

all will be revealed~I as an American!! freaking disapprove!

gypsy


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So if we get the gadaff/then what is the strategy //rosco the war authority? lol

what if we don't? what will improve if not?

gypsy


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rosco 357 wrote:i would imagine he mainly confers with the pentagon joint chief of staff. and experts there, and intel we probably have on the ground in libya and world leaders. u always cry oil. that is silly i have not even heard that mentioned on tv or anywhere.or see how it could play any part. its because his country is in a revolt and he Qaddafi has the weapons to kill them all and said he would , as obama said was one of the reasons we stepped in, and obama was in south america. i think brazil when he said that. but anyway. obama said go and we went, plain and simple he is the commander in chief of the military, and the leader of the free world
you never answered what is the purpose?

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