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1 Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:57 pm

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Fox's news programs echo its "opinion" shows: Smears, doctored videos, GOP talking points
October 13, 2009 4:58 pm ET — 45 Comments

Fox News has responded to White House criticisms of its network by claiming that while its "editorial" programs are filled with "vibrant opinion," its news hours are straight and objective. However, Fox News' purportedly straight news programs echo its "editorial" programs: Media Matters for America has compiled a non-exhaustive list -- from this year alone -- documenting how Fox's news programming features smears, falsehoods, doctored and deceptive editing, and GOP talking points.
Fox News: Our news hours are objective

In response to criticism, Fox News claims its news hours are objective. The New York Times reported on October 11 that in response to White House criticism, Fox News claimed that its news hours -- which it reportedly defined as "9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. on weekdays" are objective:

In an interview, Mr. [senior vice president for news Michael] Clemente suggested that there was an element of "shoot the messenger" in the back and forth. "Sometimes it's actually helpful to have an organization or a person that you can go up against for whatever reason," he said.

Fox argues that its news hours -- 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. on weekdays -- are objective. The channel has taken pains recently to highlight its news programs, including the two hours led by Shepard Smith, its chief news anchor. And its daytime newscasts draw more viewers than CNN or MSNBC's prime-time programs.

"The average consumer certainly knows the difference between the A section of the newspaper and the editorial page," Mr. Clemente said.

In a written statement provided to media outlets, Clemente compared Fox News' purportedly separate "news" and "opinion" programming to "the A-section of the newspaper and the editorial page":

An increasing number of viewers are relying on FOX News for both news and opinion. And the average news consumer can certainly distinguish between the A-section of the newspaper and the editorial page, which is what our programming represents. So, with all due respect to anyone who might still be confused about the difference between news reporting and vibrant opinion, my suggestion would be to talk about the stories and the facts, rather than attack the messenger...which over time, has never worked.

America's Newsroom (9-11 a.m. ET): Obama official never reported "statutory rape"; Dems "protect pedophiles"; tea parties recruitment

Hemmer advances smear that Jennings knew of "statutory rape" and "never reported it." During the October 1 edition of America's Newsroom, co-host Bill Hemmer joined his network's smears against Department of Education official Kevin Jennings by claiming that Jennings knew of a "statutory rape" case involving a student but "never reported it." In fact, as Media Matters has confirmed, the student in question was of legal age of consent at the time he was counseled by Jennings.

Kelly on Sotomayor comment: "sounds to a lot of people like reverse racism." On May 26, co-host Megyn Kelly joined conservative commentators such as Rush Limbaugh by stating that then-Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor's "wise Latina" remark "sounds to a lot of people like reverse racism, basically. Like she's saying that Latina judges are obviously better than white male judges, and that that's her assumption, and people get worried about putting a person like that on the U.S. Supreme Court." Kelly later added, "I've looked at the entire speech that she was offering to see if that was taken out of context, and I have to tell you ... it wasn't." In fact, Sotomayor was specifically discussing the importance of diversity in adjudicating race and sex discrimination cases; several conservative legal figures have made similar comments.

America's Newsroom falsehood: "House Dems vote to protect pedophiles, but not veterans." On May 6, America's Newsroom pushed the falsehood that Democrats attempted to "protect" pedophiles in voting in favor of the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Hemmer teased a segment by stating that Democrats had reportedly "voted to give special protection to pedophiles." During the segment, America's Newsroom ran on-screen text that read, "House Dems vote to protect pedophiles, but not veterans":

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Henneberg repeats right-wing myth that hate crimes bill could gag ministers. During the April 29 edition of America's Newsroom, correspondent Molly Henneberg repeated the right-wing myth that under the proposed Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, religious groups "may be prosecuted for their religious beliefs if they believe that homosexuality is a sin," and the disputed claim that the legislation "could gag ministers who preach that [homosexuality is a sin], or even if a church may not want to marry a gay couple."

Fox News' Hemmer "keeping track of the stimulus money" -- by lifting research from GOP website. On April 23, Hemmer repeatedly suggested information about four "interesting" projects reportedly funded by the recovery act was obtained through Fox News' own research, even though nearly all of the information Hemmer mentioned, as well as that included in on-screen text and graphics, first appeared on Rep. Eric Cantor's Republican Whip website.

America's Newsroom promotes tea party organizing info on-air and online. America's Newsroom encouraged viewers to get involved with April 15 "tea party" protests across the country, which Fox News had described as primarily a response to President Obama's fiscal policies. The program frequently hosted tea party organizers, and posted on-screen organizing information, such as protest dates and locations. America's Newsroom also repeatedly directed viewers to its website, which featured a list of tea party protests.

America's Newsroom directs viewers to "virtual tea party." America's Newsroom repeatedly directed viewers to participate in a "virtual tea party" at Fox News' purportedly non-biased website, Fox Nation. Hemmer told viewers, "Can't get to a tea party? Fox Nation hosts a virtual tea party," while Kelly said, "You can join the tea party action from your home if you go to the FoxNation.com ... a virtual tax day tea party."

America's Newsroom pushes discredited GOP calculation of Obama's cap-and-trade proposal. On April 2, guest host Alisyn Camerota asserted that the cost of Obama's cap-and-trade proposal "would be $3,100 per U.S. household." The claim was advanced by the House Republican Conference in a March 23 "Talking Points" press release, and the Republicans reportedly purported to back up the claim by pointing to a 2007 study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). But MIT professor John Reilly, one of the authors of the study, has disputed the GOP's calculation, stating that his study "has been misrepresented" and that the Republicans' claim of an average household cost of $3,128 is "nearly 10 times the correct estimate" based on his study's cap-and-trade model. PolitiFact.com rated the $3,100 figure a "pants on fire" falsehood.

America's Newsroom falsely claimed Obama budget "4x bigger than Bush's costliest plan." On the April 3 edition of America's Newsroom, on-screen text falsely claimed that Obama's $3.6 trillion FY 2010 budget is "4x bigger than Bush's costliest plan." In fact, President Bush submitted a $3.1 trillion budget for FY 2009 and a $2.9 trillion budget for FY 2008.

America's Newsroom promotes McCaughey falsehood that stimulus would "hav[e] the government essentially dictate treatments." On February 10, Hemmer and Kelly promoted the falsehood -- which first appeared in a Bloomberg "commentary" by serial misinformer Betsy McCaughey and was subsequently promoted by Limbaugh and Matt Drudge -- that the economic recovery bill included a provision that would, in the words of guest Stephen Moore, a Wall Street Journal economics writer, "hav[e] the government essentially dictate treatments."
Happening Now (11 a.m.-1 p.m. ET): Home of repeated attempts to pass off GOP research as its own

Happening Now passes off GOP press release as its own research -- typo and all. During the February 10 edition of Happening Now, co-host Jon Scott purported to "take a look back" at how the economic recovery plan "grew, and grew, and grew." In doing so, Scott referenced seven dates, as on-screen graphics cited various news sources from those time periods -- all of which came directly from a Senate Republican Communications Center press release. A Fox News on-screen graphic even reproduced a typo contained in the Republican press release. The following day, Scott apologized -- for running the typo. Scott's apology was criticized by Washington Post media critic and CNN host Howard Kurtz, who said: "We sometimes jab at the pundits for using talking points, but in the case of Fox News anchor Jon Scott, it was literally true this week. ... You should be apologizing for using partisan propaganda from the GOP without telling your viewers where it came from. Talk about missing the point."

Happening Now posts "FOXfact[s]" about GOP budget nearly identical to GOP Rep. Ryan's op-ed. During two segments on the April 1, Happening Now aired "FOXfact[s]" purporting to describe facts about the House Republican budget. However, all of the seven "FOXfact[s]" displayed onscreen were nearly identical to portions of an op-ed by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) published in that day's Wall Street Journal.

Happening Now crops clips of Obama to promote "another apology tour." On June 2, Scott asked if "the president's upcoming trip [to Europe and the Middle East will] be what conservatives might call another apology tour," and both Scott and co-host Jane Skinner aired cropped clips of Obama's remarks from an April 3 speech in France to falsely suggest that Obama only criticized the United States. In doing so, Happening Now joined conservative commentators and Fox News hosts who have cropped or misrepresented Obama's overseas remarks to falsely suggest, in the words of host Sean Hannity, that Obama was "blam[ing] America first" and, more broadly, that Obama's earlier overseas trip constituted an "apology tour."
Live Desk (1-3 p.m. ET): Falsehoods, deceptive editing

Fox News presents deceptively cropped six-month-old Biden clip as new. On March 16, Live Desk co-host Martha MacCallum claimed that "after weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune. Take a look at what was said in recent interviews this weekend." Live Desk then aired clips of administration officials purportedly giving an optimistic view of the economy, which included video of Vice President Joe Biden stating, "The fundamentals of the economy are strong." However, Biden did not make those remarks during an "interview" that weekend; he made them at a September 2008 campaign event in which he criticized statements by Sen. John McCain. MacCallum apologized the next day.

Fox's Camerota pushes bogus stat that cap-and-trade would cost "every American family $1,761 annually." On September 30, guest co-host Alisyn Camerota pushed the bogus stat that cap-and-trade would cost "every American family $1,761 annually." PolitiFact.com has labeled the statistic false and noted that the talking point has been pushed by Republicans.

Jarrett suggests DOJ "thinks it's OK to intimidate white people, not OK to intimidate black people at the polls." On July 30, guest co-host Gregg Jarrett suggested that the Obama Department of Justice "thinks it's OK to intimidate white people, not OK to intimidate black people at the polls."

Live Desk: "Dems and Unions Push to Kill Workers' Right to Secret Ballot." During a report on the Employee Free Choice Act on the March 11 edition of The Live Desk, Fox aired a chyron stating, "Dems and Unions Push to Kill Workers' Right to Secret Ballot." In fact, the legislation would not eliminate employees' right to a secret ballot; as The New York Times reported, "Business groups have attacked the legislation because it would take away employers' right to insist on holding a secret-ballot election to determine whether workers favored unionization" [emphasis added]. Indeed, as The Christian Science Monitor has noted, "[t]he proposed law gives workers a choice of forming a union through majority sign-up ('card check') or an election by secret ballot."

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MacCallum agrees with Bachmann's claim that Obama's proposals are a "lurch toward socialism." On March 24, MacCallum responded to Rep. Michele Bachmann's (R-MN) claim that Obama proposals are a "lurch toward socialism" by stating: "I think you're absolutely right about that."

"Democrat" Mark Sanford. While airing live footage of a press conference by South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Live Desk incorrectly identified the Republican as a Democrat. Gallagher later apologized for the error.
Special Report (6-7 p.m. ET): Video doctoring, cropped quotes, smears of Obama officials, falsehoods

Baier smears Jennings as failing to report "sexual abuse." On October 1, host Bret Baier joined Fox News' witch hunt against Jennings, claiming that "Education Secretary Arne Duncan is standing behind his so-called safe schools czar after revelations that Kevin Jennings did not report a case of sexual abuse he encountered as a schoolteacher."

Wilson: Jennings "admitted" that "he failed to alert authorities when a 15-year-old boy told him he was involved in a sexual relationship with an older man." On October 6, correspondent Brian Wilson stated: "School safety czar Kevin Jennings is currently under fire because he admitted that in 1988, when he was a high school teacher, he failed to alert authorities when a 15-year-old boy told him he was involved in a sexual relationship with an older man. One member of the House believes Jennings would not have his current job if czars were required to face Senate confirmation hearings." Wilson repeated the 15-year old age claim even though FoxNews.com previously acknowledged that the student was of legal age -- 16 years old -- at the time.

Video doctoring: Goler reverses meaning of Obama quote to falsely suggest he supports European-style health care. On April 24, White House correspondent Wendell Goler cropped a comment by Obama and took it out of context -- effectively reversing the statement's meaning -- to falsely suggest that Obama supports creating a health care system "like the European countries." Goler claimed that Obama "doesn't want to do it halfway" on health care, and then aired a clip from a March 26 online town hall event of Obama saying, "If you're going to fix it, why not do a universal health-care system like the European countries?" Following the clip, Goler reported: "His critics worry universal health care would mean government-run health care." In fact, Obama actually said, "Now, the question is, if you're going to fix it, why not do a universal health-care system like the European countries?" [emphasis added] In doing so, Obama was paraphrasing the town hall question he had been asked -- "Why can we not have a universal health-care system, like many European countries, where people are treated based on needs rather than financial resources?" -- before explaining why he opposed such a system.

Fox's Garrett deceptively cropped Obama remark on judicial role. On May 1, saying it was a "description of how the president hopes his nominee will interpret the law," congressional correspondent Major Garrett aired a clip in which Obama stated: "I view that quality of empathy, of understanding and identifying with people's hopes and struggles, as an essential ingredient for arriving at just decisions and outcomes." Garrett then said: "That aggravates those who believe justices should follow the Constitution and legislative intent." But Garrett omitted Obama's very next sentence, in which he stated: "I will seek somebody who is dedicated to the rule of law, who honors our constitutional traditions, who respects the integrity of the judicial process and the appropriate limits of the judicial role."

Rosen: "Rats could attack us in the sewers and court systems if all of Cass Sunstein's writings became law." On September 9, reporter James Rosen joined Glenn Beck's "czars" witch hunt by distorting Obama administration official Cass Sunstein's writings about organ donation and animal rights.

Special Report packs in health care falsehoods. In an August 24 report on how, in the words of Baier, "Republicans are trying to position themselves as the party looking out for seniors' well-being," Rosen advanced the conservative talking point that Democrats plan to cut Medicare benefits for seniors and presented the widely debunked "death panel" falsehood as a he said/she said. Rosen also advanced the smear that Veterans Health Administration officials are referring veterans to a booklet that encourages them to end their lives prematurely.

Baier falsely suggests Obama has cited Canada as possible health reform model. On June 29, Baier falsely suggested that Obama has cited Canada's medical system as a "possible model" for his health care reform plan. In fact, Obama has explicitly rejected a Canadian-style health care system.

Special Report falsely suggests activism question deleted from questionnaire for Sotomayor. A June 4 report by legal correspondent Shannon Bream falsely suggested that Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) eliminated a question on judicial activism from the questionnaire for Sonia Sotomayor's Supreme Court nomination. In fact, Leahy reportedly removed the question in 2007 pursuant to a bipartisan agreement. The following day, Baier corrected Bream's report by acknowledging that the question was deleted "long before Sotomayor was picked for the high court."
Fox News Sunday: "Death book," health care misinformation

"Death book" distortions abound on Fox News Sunday. On the August 23 edition of Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace hosted former Bush administration aide Jim Towey to discuss his Wall Street Journal op-ed, "The Death Book for Veterans," and in doing so promoted numerous distortions about an end-of-life educational booklet used by the Veterans Health Administration (VHA). In addition to forwarding the smear that the booklet is a "death book," Wallace promoted Towey's distortion that the booklet encourages veterans to "pull the plug" -- it doesn't; Wallace and Towey both suggested that the Bush administration suspended use of the booklet -- it didn't; and Wallace claimed that a VHA document requires doctors to direct veterans to the booklet -- it doesn't.

Wallace revives rationing bogeyman. On August 16, Wallace repeatedly advanced the conservative talking point that Democrats' health care reform proposals would create a system of rationing care, omitting the fact that rationing already happens under the current system. Indeed, Wallace did not acknowledge that rationing already occurs, even after his guest, American Medical Association president J. James Rohack, said, "[T]here's a myth that rationing doesn't occur right now. ... That's why this bill's important. It gets rid of some of the rationing that's occurring right now."

Wallace claimed Holder, confirmed 75-21, "got into office by the skin of his teeth." On February 22, Wallace claimed that Attorney General Eric Holder "got into office by the skin of his teeth." However, Holder was confirmed by the Senate in a 75-21 vote, and the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 17-2 in favor of reporting his nomination to the full Senate.

Wallace on Obama: "pettiness," "childishness"; Obama admin. "biggest bunch of crybabies." Wallace has claimed Obama did not appear on his show because of "pettiness" and "childishness," and has called the Obama administration the "biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington."
Fox News opinion programs don't just have "vibrant opinion" -- they frequently smear Obama administration

Fox News "opinion" programs frequently smear Obama administration with falsehoods. In defending its programming, Fox News has repeatedly pushed the argument that critics are targeting the network for the "vibrant opinion" expressed on shows such as Glenn Beck and Hannity. However, Fox News' "opinion" programs don't simply have a "vibrant opinion" about the Obama administration -- they frequently smear the Obama administration with falsehoods. Fox News' pattern of smearing the Obama administration follows the network's prevalent pattern of smears and misinformation -- on both the network's purported straight news hours and its "opinion" shows -- during the 2008 political campaign.
— E.H.H.

2 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:26 pm

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LOVE FOX NEWS..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:31 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Fox just smeared a new person with lies and untruths, reminds me of the Acorn scam they did which all proved that fox again lied and created smears.. Schopenhauer,. may have spelled that wrong is the person she was director of something lol, will get the story if i can find it..

4 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:40 pm

gypsy


Moderator
her name is sherrod I will put the article

ASHINGTON — Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said Wednesday he has apologized to an employee he ousted over remarks about race and offered her a "unique" new position at the agency.

"She’s been put through hell and I could have done, and should have done, a better job," Vilsack said of Shirley Sherrod.

Vilsack told reporters that Sherrod accepted his apology. He said, "She was extraordinarily gracious."

Sherrod said she is considering Vilsack's offer of a new job working on civil rights. "They did make an offer," she told The Associated Press. "I just told him I need to think about it."

Earlier Wednesday, an embarrassed White House also apologized to Sherrod, who was forced to resign over her remarks about race to an NAACP banquet in Georgia earlier this year. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the administration did not know all the facts when it acted.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs called the dismissal of Sherrod an injustice and a mistake and said he was apologizing for the "entire administration." He also said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack was trying to reach her to extend an apology.

"I accept the apology," Sherrod said on CNN after watching Gibbs talk to reporters at a televised briefing.
this was all over fox, and their reporting another falsehood.

5 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:17 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Rachel Maddow’s Brilliant Report on Sherrod Smear Job: ‘Who’s Next?’

July 21, 2010 by kstreet607

Rachel is the only commentator on cable or network news who takes the time to explain a particular newsworthy story that might appear complicated on its surface. Last night was an example of Rachel Maddow’s brilliant presentation and analysis of a news story:

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MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show – 20 July 2010: Brilliant coverage and analysis of the Shirley Sherrod ‘smear job’ by Breitbart and Fox News Channel. “This is what Fox does… Fox News knows it has a role in this dance.”

“If you keep falling for this sort of stunt, you are encouraging them.”

After starting the show with video of Rachel predicting rhetorically in a report a while back on the ACORN smear scam that someone would be next, she fills in the events of the last two days…

MADDOW: “Within hours of that clip being posted online and billed as evidence of a racist within the Obama administation, Fox News, understanding their role in this delicate, well-practiced dance, jumped all over it…”

FOX NEWS’ DANA PERINO (VIDEO): “Breaking news tonight, about an Agriculture Department official caught on tape making racially charged comments to an NAACP audience…”

BILL O’REILLY (VIDEO): “Well, that is simply unacceptable, and Ms. Sherrod should resign immediately. The federal government cannot have skin color deciding any assistance.”

SEAN HANNITY (VIDEO): “And this is a Fox News Alert! An Obama administration official resigned just a short time ago after she was caught on tape appearing to tell an audience that she had used her position to racially discriminate against white farmers.”

MADDOW: “How’s that for efficient? How’s that for action?! Fox News and a conservative website uncover what they say is an admitted racist in the Obama administration and she is forced to resign immediately.

The problem? There are a few ginormous asterisks that were left out of the initial breathless Fox News coverage. The conservative website that posted the video, presented it as if it were a real-time admission of racism, an admission of racism happening now, actively, within the U.S. Agriculture Department. And that’s how it was covered, initially, by Fox News. Here’s how the video was set up. See this quote?: ‘Ms. Sherrod admits that in her federally appointed position, overseeing a billion dollars, she discriminates against people due to their race.”

Damning, if that were actually true. Shirley Sherrod joined the USDA in 2009. Now, it is clear even from these edited tapes was that what she was talking about here was a situation that took place a long time before that.

- snip -

… more than 20 years before she took this job with the federal government. That reality, that never made it into screaming Fox News headlines, though, like: ‘Video Shows USDA Official Saying She Didn’t Give “Full Force” Of Help To White Farmer’ and ‘Government Discrimination Caught On Tape,’ that’s not actually at all what the tapes reveal…

So that’s the first thing…

But even more importantly, and you would never know this if you got all your information from Fox News, Shirley Sherrod never actually followed through on this idea of withholding help to the white farmer. The whole point of her telling the story was that, in the end, she decided that her initial reaction was wrong. Having never been confronted with the opportunity or the possibility of helping a white farmer before, having always worked with black farmers, her initial reaction to the first opportunity to help a white farmer was wrong. This is the point of the story. The point of the story was that she should actually help the white farmers, and that’s exactly what she did, as the couple in question explained on CNN earlier today…”

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RICK SANCHEZ (VIDEO): “In all your time knowing Shirley Sherrod, has there ever been anything about her, either through her attitude, her word, her opinions, or her behaviors, that would leave you to believe that she is, in any way, a racist?”

COUPLE (VIDEO): “No way in the world. No way. I don’t even want to talk about it. It don’t make sense.”

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MADDOW: “…she did the right thing. She helped those farmers. That’s what happened. Unless, of course, you watch Fox News.”

FOX & FRIENDS (VIDEO): “Because a farmer was white, she doesn’t extend the full helping hand to him. And she’s touting this in this anecdote, as though this is somehow a feather in her cap…”

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MADDOW: “What is not really that interesting about this whole situation is the fact that Fox News is doing this. This is what Fox News does. This is how they are different from other news organizations. This is why the White House argued months ago that Fox should be treated as a media organization, but not as a normal news organization, because they don’t treat news the way a normal news organization treats news. Just like the fake ACORN controversy, Fox News knows that it has a role in this dance. That’s not new. That’s not actually even interesting about this scandal. Fox does what Fox does. That is ‘Dog Bites Man.’ That is not interesting.

What is interesting about this story is that the Obama administration inexplicably keeps falling for it. Today, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack acknowledged that he asked for and accepted Shirley Sherrod’s resignation after this supposed controversy came to light on Fox News, but apparently before anyone BUT Fox News and a conservative website got their say about what actually happened here.

Dear White House, Dear Administration: Believing conservative spin about what is so wrong with you, and then giving in to that spin, is not an effective defense against that spin. Just buying and apologizing for it and doing whatever they want you to do, doesn’t make the problem of them lying about you go away. In fact, it makes it worse.

After Fox News set its sights on Obama administration official Van Jones, Van Jones was very quickly booted out of his job. After Fox News went on this fake crusade against ACORN, the Obama administration CUT ALL TIES with the group, didn’t even bother to mount a defense, or wait until they had been investigated properly, just let Fox News do it – they pushed an effort to defund ACORN.

And now, after Fox News totally misrepresented USDA employee Shirley Sherrod, she’s cut loose, as well, before the story can even make it into the mainstream media. If you keep falling for this sort of stunt, you are encouraging them. You are feeding a dog from the table, and thereby encouraging that dog to beg at the table.

After all the damage was already done today, after Fox News managed to force out Shirley Sherrod with a totally out-of-context smear job that made white people feel agrieved about racism in a way that helps Fox News’ politics, here’s how Fox News decided to cover the end of this story:”

FOX NEWS READER (VIDEO): “Did the White House essentially railroad an innocent woman in this because they are on edge about the Van Jones controversy, the Black Panthers Party case, and other controversies…”

MADDOW: “She was railroaded!

Given how the Obama administration has reacted to previous cooked-up campaigns by Fox News and conservative activists, it was not impossible to see this coming. So I say again tonight, as I said back in April, the huge tide of negative publicity that followed these videotapes and the coverage they got on Fox wall-to-wall was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts of what happened. But it worked. Means be damned, in the end, it worked.

I asked it months ago, and I’m asking it again now. Who’s next?”

http://kaystreet.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/rachel-maddows-brilliant-report-on-sherrod-smear-job-whos-next/

6 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:53 am

SSC


Admin
The video of her hit YouTube long before the AP which is where Fox picked up the story was ever published. She openly bragged on not helping a WHITE farmer whom she felt was acting superior to her, this all told at a NAACP meeting. Sure seems mighty strange all the black-white tension lately, and if it is black against white it isn't racist, but heaven help us all if a black is wronged..Guess it is a sign of the times we are living in.

7 YouTube Video on Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:10 am

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8 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:44 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I see responses from a person on my ignore /foe list I am ignoring you remember..

9 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:49 pm

SSC


Admin
Ohhh so sorry, but as we all know if a person is on IGNORE..YOU SEE NO RESPONSES FROM THAT PERSON...BUSTED...LMAO

10 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:53 pm

gypsy


Moderator
SSC I can only see your name as a response ,your on ignore quit responding to my posts thank you

11 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:05 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
this is not my sight , but i think tyler would agree, ppl can respond to post here even if the person has u on ignore, because that person can see and read ur post. they can respond so others can see their opinion, the ignore is so u cant see their opinion, ignore does not mean a total black out of ideas,to other posters, here,

12 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:12 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I was reprimanded for responding to moon once while he was ignoring me, I am just going by the rules i thought,I can't respond to her and she isn't suppose to respond to me~
as I said once before she doesn't exist here for me, I have took enough of her abuse no more~ I want nothing to do with her. or to read anything she has to say.

13 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:22 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
you have her on ignore so u cant see her response so then there is not a problem. u cant see her post,
this is all i will say on the subject,

14 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:30 pm

gypsy


Moderator
good on all u will say. I stand behind what I say if I am ignoring her, I don't want her respond to my posts.~

15 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:30 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Gypsy, she is not directing her responses at you. Shes not mentioning your name or making any references to you.

Yes I asked you to stop replying to moons posts when he said he had you on ignore. But it turned out he didn't really have you on ignore, he admitting he lied about that right here on the forum. So considering that I can't tell who has who on ignore, and how the moon situation turned with him never really having you on ignore, I'm reversing that stance of don't reply if someone 'says' they have you on ignore. I will ask however that no references be made to the person that says they have you on ignore. SSC hasn't done that yet. Shes only addressed the topic.


Another way to look at it is this, if you put someone on ignore it means you don't want to read there posts anymore, well you can't if you truly have them on ignore. It shows you don't care what they say.

I don't know what else to do. This crap is causing me a lot of grief and trouble.

Here's an idea, just don't reply to each others topics anymore.

16 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:08 pm

SSC


Admin
Thats fine with me Tyler, since I DO NOT have Gypsy on ignore I will continue to see her posts and just chose to mark them as read and go to the next post. No problem for me at all. Thanks for clearing this little dilemma up.

17 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:29 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
i assume if i reply to a gyp post, like give my opinion of the post subject, another person can reply to my post, besides gypsy, lmao , i just dont want a black out of ideas, dont stress about it tyler, whatever is ok with im sure the rest of us,

18 Re: Fox news echos its"opinion"shows on Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:05 pm

gypsy


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runawayhorses wrote:Gypsy, she is not directing her responses at you. Shes not mentioning your name or making any references to you.

Yes I asked you to stop replying to moons posts when he said he had you on ignore. But it turned out he didn't really have you on ignore, he admitting he lied about that right here on the forum. So considering that I can't tell who has who on ignore, and how the moon situation turned with him never really having you on ignore, I'm reversing that stance of don't reply if someone 'says' they have you on ignore. I will ask however that no references be made to the person that says they have you on ignore. SSC hasn't done that yet. Shes only addressed the topic.


Another way to look at it is this, if you put someone on ignore it means you don't want to read there posts anymore, well you can't if you truly have them on ignore. It shows you don't care what they say.

I don't know what else to do. This crap is causing me a lot of grief and trouble.

Here's an idea, just don't reply to each others topics anymore.
Thank you Tyler, I respect your thoughts, and don't, and would not want to cause you grief..I will just continue ignoring her, because I do have her on ignore~ don't worry Rosco I understand your thoughts no problem here~ I wasn't replying to any of her posts. and I won't. I do not care about her opinion whatsoever.Thanks for understanding y'all.

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runawayhorses


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rosco 357 wrote:i assume if i reply to a gyp post, like give my opinion of the post subject, another person can reply to my post, besides gypsy, lmao , i just dont want a black out of ideas, dont stress about it tyler, whatever is ok with im sure the rest of us,
My idea was if Gypsy creates a new topic that SSC does not respond to it first, but if you reply to it or someone else does its free game. And the same with SSC's posts that Gypsy doesn't reply first.

OK, I'm done here, I don't want to discuss this anymore.

I put the ignore feature in place to help keep peace, and I'm done now. Do with it what you will. I will not rub my nose in this anymore.

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