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1 Whose country is this? on Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:04 pm

rosco 357


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Whose country is this?
Posted: April 26, 2010
8:51 pm Eastern
commentary by Patrick J Buchanan
2010
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146341

With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens, half a million of whom now reside there.

Arizona acted because the U.S. government has abdicated its constitutional duty to protect the states from invasion and refuses to enforce America's immigration laws.

"We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act," said Gov. Jan Brewer. "But decades of inaction and misguided policy have created an unacceptable situation."

We have a crisis in Arizona because we have a failed state in Washington.

What is the response of Barack Obama, who took an oath to see to it that federal laws are faithfully executed?

He is siding with the law-breakers. He is pandering to the ethnic lobbies. He is not berating a Mexican regime that aids and abets this invasion of the country of which he is commander in chief. Instead, he attacks the government of Arizona for trying to fill a gaping hole in law enforcement left by his own dereliction of duty.

He has denounced Arizona as "misguided." He has called on the Justice Department to ensure that Arizona's sheriffs and police do not violate anyone's civil rights. But he has said nothing about the rights of the people of Arizona who must deal with the costs of having hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers in their midst.

How's that for Andrew Jackson-style leadership?

Concerned about the impact of illegal aliens on the United States? Don't miss Tom Tancredo's book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security"

Obama has done everything but his duty to enforce the law.

Undeniably, making it a state as well as a federal crime to be in this country illegally, and requiring police to check the immigration status of anyone they have a "reasonable suspicion" is here illegally, is tough and burdensome. But what choice did Arizona have?

The state has a fiscal crisis caused in part by the burden of providing schooling and social welfare for illegals and their families, who consume far more in services than they pay in taxes and who continue to pour in. Even John McCain is now calling for 3,000 troops on the border.

Police officers and a prominent rancher have been murdered. There have been kidnappings believed to be tied to the Mexican drug cartels. There are nightly high-speed chases through the barrios where innocent people are constantly at risk.

If Arizona does not get control of the border and stop the invasion, U.S. citizens will stop coming to Arizona and will begin to depart, as they are already fleeing California.

What we are talking about here is the Balkanization and breakup of a nation into ethnic enclaves. A country that cannot control its borders isn't really a country anymore, Ronald Reagan reminded us.

The tasks that Arizonans are themselves undertaking are ones that belong by right, the Constitution and federal law to the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Homeland Security.

Arizona has been compelled to assume the feds' role because the feds won't do their job. And for that dereliction of duty the buck stops on the desk of the president of the United States.

Why is Obama paralyzed? Why does he not enforce the law, even if he dislikes it, by punishing the businessmen who hire illegals and by sending the 12 million to 20 million illegals back home? President Eisenhower did it. Why won't he?

Because he is politically correct. Because he owes a big debt to the Hispanic lobby that helped deliver two-thirds of that vote in 2008. Though most citizens of Hispanic descent in Arizona want the border protected and the laws enforced, the Hispanic lobby demands that the law be changed.

Fair enough. But the nation rose up as one to reject the "path-to-citizenship" i.e., amnesty that the 2007 plan of George W. Bush, McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama envisioned.

Al Sharpton threatens to go to Phoenix and march in the streets against the new Arizona law. Let him go.

Let us see how many African-Americans, who are today frozen out of the 8 million jobs held by illegal aliens that might otherwise go to them or their children, will march to defend an invasion for which they are themselves paying the heaviest price.

Last year, while Americans were losing a net of 5 million jobs, the U.S. government Bush and Obama both issued 1,131,000 green cards to legal immigrants to come and take the jobs that did open up, a flood of immigrants equaled in only four other years in our history.

What are we doing to our own people?

Whose country is this, anyway?

America today has an establishment that, because it does not like the immigration laws, countenances and condones wholesale violation of those laws.

Nevertheless, under those laws, the U.S. government is obligated to deport illegal aliens and punish businesses that knowingly hire them.

This is not an option. It is an obligation.

Can anyone say Barack Obama is meeting that obligation?

2 Re: Whose country is this? on Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:41 pm

gypsy


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yes i can say he is meeting his obligation,more than the previous president did~ I do believe the state of Arizona is reverting back to before civil rights..I also think that America is the country of refuge, always has been.of course I do believe in regulation and illegals should be sent back, I believe there is a reform in the works, but as usual he is bucking up against The republicans, just like with the health care and the wall street reform the republicans are not going to work with the president on anything it seems. maybe this fall we will vote those out who want our country to stay the way it was, when we almost completely collapsed because of these backward minded racial people~who can think of nothing but becoming wealthy and keeping the middle/working class down.. that is my take/voice on it.. Also punish those hiring illegals. there is where to start.

3 Re: Whose country is this? on Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:06 pm

gypsy


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also i can say with sureness, pat buchanan is an ass~ who really knows nothing~

4 Re: Whose country is this? on Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:18 pm

rosco 357


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i like pat B. i have never seen him mad , on tv he seems to always be in a funny mood, he is just stating what 70 percent of the ppl of Arizona wants, besides u practically said the same thing he said,
punish companies that hire them and send the illegals back. he was just quoting the new law.i read somewhere else 76 percent of ppl in arizona back this new law. almost half a million illegals in one state, is breaking Arizona if the feds are not acting arizona was forced to pass this law, , . u said buchanan does not know anything . he is a smart man, he was ronald reagans speech writer. i think ur main beef since u say the same thing he says is his slam on obama. how is obama meeting his obligation? how are we reverting back to before civil rights, they are not talking about the legal process but the illegals the ones u said send back.i hope macain gets the 3000 new troops on the border. but i agree with the quote, "A country that cannot control its borders isn't really a country anymore", Ronald Reagan reminded us.anyway im glad u and pat agree on illegals, lol, arizona is just on the front lines and overwhelmed .
we have a candidate for govenor that came out of nowhere but is running adds the we give drivers licenses test in 15 languages, but when he is govenor it will be only one test in english. he ran these adds to gain attention and he has done that. he is getting lots of news coverage. im not agreeing or disagreeing but just stating what is happening with this candidate, and he is on the map now.

5 Re: Whose country is this? on Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:26 pm

gypsy


Moderator
I don't like Pat B, never did, not just because he slams Obama

anyway I do agree on the illegal thing, I don't agree with the law Arizona passed on stopping dark skinned people or people for no reason,that is breaking civil right laws~ that is my beef~ with this law.. and there are states thinking of boycotting Arizona,already condemning them for this law.. I think Pat B is a racist, and I don't agree that he is a smart man, he says some very dumb things~ LOL
anyway I don't like the law, and I don't think it will work. just my opinion~.

6 Re: Whose country is this? on Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:58 pm

rosco 357


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well im baffled some. u disagree with the law but support sending illegals back and putting fines on companies that hire them, they just cant stop anyone, they have to have a "reasonable suspicion" before they can check ppl. anyway, we will see if this holds up in courts,its a hugh problem in Arizona so really they had no choice, i know someone that had a small mini horse ranch near san diego and left california and went to Arizona i think if it holds up in the courts other states may do the same thing, but maybe not, ok enough about that,just wait and see, take care

7 Re: Whose country is this? on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:45 pm

gypsy


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it states they can stop anyone ,if they think one is suspicious, that would mean dark skinned people,can you see them stopping a blonde blue eyed person?? and who would have papers on one to show they are a citizen? I think the Arizona law ,breaks the law~

8 Re: Whose country is this? on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:55 pm

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:it states they can stop anyone ,if they think one is suspicious, that would mean dark skinned people,can you see them stopping a blonde blue eyed person?? and who would have papers on one to show they are a citizen? I think the Arizona law ,breaks the law~

no it does not dark skin ppl, u have to be stoped for a legit traffic reason and have a show a valid drivers licence and prof of insurance, but i have said enough about this, a blond will be stoped if she breaks a traffic law, and would have to have the same info. i have had to show the same thing here,

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