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rosco 357


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My words, this title was in red print, the news was titled what i made the title, but inside it only was called "The $100 Million Health Care Vote"? but i put what the news sight had as the title, it was in red print which means its one on the lastest and Hottest news articles, well ssc i know ur not for any of this, but if in fact something does pass, i hope it helps ur area in some way.. im not sure what it may mean for ur state but clearly its directed at the katrina disaster,, as to get her vote,i thought u may find it interesting if u have not seen it in ur local news already... WOW when u read the law as it actually is written, it makes my eyes cross.. its beyond me how they write this stuff as they do. it goes to so many places it makes me dizzy, u will see when u get to the actual legal read of this part of the senate bill in this article..

The $100 Million Health Care Vote?

November 19, 2009 3:03 PM
ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports:

What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?

Here’s a case study.

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)

Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.

How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.

Here’s the incredibly complicated language:

SEC. 2006. SPECIAL ADJUSTMENT TO FMAP DETERMINATION FOR CERTAIN STATES RECOVERING FROM A MAJOR DISASTER.

Section 1905 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396d), as amended by sections 2001(a)(3) and
2001(b)(2), is amended— (1) in subsection (b), in the first sentence, by striking ‘‘subsection (y)’’ and inserting ‘‘subsections (y) and (aa)’’; and (2) by adding at the end the following new subsection:

‘‘(aa)(1) Notwithstanding subsection (b), beginning January 1, 2011, the Federal medical assistance percentage for a fiscal year for a disaster-recovery FMAP adjustment State shall be equal to the following:
‘(A) In the case of the first fiscal year (or part of a fiscal year) for which this subsection applies to the State, the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the fiscal year without regard to this subsection and subsection (y), increased by 50 percent of the number of percentage points by which the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the fiscal year without regard to this subsection and subsection (y), is less than the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the preceding fiscal year after the application of only subsection (a) of section 5001 of Public Law 111–5 (if applicable to the preceding fiscal year) and without regard to this subsection, subsection (y), and subsections (b) and (c) of section 5001 of Public Law 111–5.

‘‘(B) In the case of the second or any succeeding fiscal year for which this subsection applies to the State, the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the preceding fiscal year under this subsection for the State, increased by 25 percent of the number of percentage points by which the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the fiscal year without regard to this subsection and subsection (y), is less than the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the preceding fiscal year under this subsection.

‘‘(2) In this subsection, the term ‘disaster-recovery FMAP adjustment State’ means a State that is one of
the 50 States or the District of Columbia, for which, at any time during the preceding 7 fiscal years, the President has declared a major disaster under section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act and determined as a result of such disaster that every county or parish in the State warrant individual and public assistance or public assistance from the Federal Government under such Act and for which— ‘‘(A) in the case of the first fiscal year (or part of a fiscal year) for which this subsection applies to the State, the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the fiscal year without regard to this subsection and subsection (y), is less than the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the preceding fiscal year after the application of only subsection (a) of section 5001 of Public Law 111–5 (if applicable to the preceding fiscal year) and without regard to this subsection, subsection (y), and subsections (b) and (c) of section 5001 of Public Law 111–5, by at least 3 percentage points; and ‘‘(B) in the case of the second or any succeeding fiscal year for which this subsection applies to the State, the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the fiscal year without regard to this subsection and subsection (y), is less than the Federal medical assistance percentage determined for the State for the preceding fiscal year under this subsection by at least 3 percentage points.

‘‘(3) The Federal medical assistance percentage determined for a disaster-recovery FMAP adjustment State under paragraph (1) shall apply for purposes of this title (other than with respect to disproportionate share hospital payments described in section 1923 and payments under this title that are based on the enhanced FMAP described in 2105(b)) and shall not apply with respect to payments under title IV (other than under part E of title IV) or payments under title XXI.’’.

2 Welcome To Louisiana Politics on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:50 am

SSC


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Of course Landreu is holding out she knew they sweetened the pot for her state, the one problem is the people in her districts are against the health care plan,so if she votes in favor then she is committing political suicide, and her party is courting her with obvious bribes, sucks to be her. What happened to Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Alabama and Georgia and all the other states that have had declared disasters in the last 7 years.. This is just one more ugly example of what is going on in Washington and the desperation of the Democratic party...
According to our local news this windfall (snicker-snicker) will go to New Orleans area..

rosco 357


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SSC wrote:Of course Landreu is holding out she knew they sweetened the pot for her state, the one problem is the people in her districts are against the health care plan,so if she votes in favor then she is committing political suicide, and her party is courting her with obvious bribes, sucks to be her. What happened to Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Alabama and Georgia and all the other states that have had declared disasters in the last 7 years.. This is just one more ugly example of what is going on in Washington and the desperation of the Democratic party...
According to our local news this windfall (snicker-snicker) will go to New Orleans area..


just one question, u said the ppl in her districts are against the plan. that sounds like a house member, but she is a senator who represents the whole state... but if it means help or money some ppl change tunes, for example, one of our Republican senators Richard Shelby who i think a while back got money for bama, i think 150 million on something, both our senators are republicans, but shelby will get all the money he can for the state...they all holler pork, but when it comes to their state, most usually take whatever they can, i know Richard Shelby does here, and probably jeff sessions our other senator..but i dont follow them , i just know u showed shelby got something for bama,,,in a post a few weeks ago, just as most of them do for their state..its pork till it is coming to anyones state then that word goes out the window....and its take the money, it will be interesting to follow, shelby is so popular he hardly has to campaign to win,, i think but not sure he is safer than sessions, but sessions is safe too, well take care, ,,

SSC


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You are right I was thinking and typing to fast...lol Landreu has reviewed the poll in the state, Louisiana is not in favor of the health care plan, she being a Democrat is already in jeopardy in the next election, even with her long connections in politics, she will fall as many have. Moon Landreu her father was mayor of NO for years..he has been long forgotten, this obvious award for the state is nothing short of bribery.

rosco 357


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SSC wrote:You are right I was thinking and typing to fast...lol Landreu has reviewed the poll in the state, Louisiana is not in favor of the health care plan, she being a Democrat is already in jeopardy in the next election, even with her long connections in politics, she will fall as many have. Moon Landreu her father was mayor of NO for years..he has been long forgotten, this obvious award for the state is nothing short of bribery.

well it did say she was a moderate, who know the money she gets may pick up votes,if in fact it helps the state, many ppl are against the medical thing but not a real strong opinion, but who know what will happen, its all speculation now, i hope if it in fact something passes, it helps ur region, take care

SSC


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Landreu and the Ark. senator voted on party lines tonight, but making statements when the final bill comes down they will not vote in favor of it the way it stands now. What kills me is all this wasted taxpayer money on these ridiculous votes when in the morning the amendments will start and more new taxes added in , it is a friggin Democratic farce.. I honestly would hate to have a serious medical condition right now, the medicare system is already increasing co-pays, and reducing some treatments, insurance companies will and are raising premiums in advance of anticipated pricing by the feds. Meds are being priced off the charts..Heart and diabetic patients are in for the screwing of their lives with their medical needs..Sucks to be them at this time. A friend came by today her aunt has terminal cancer went into the hospital this past Tues. yesterday medicare contacted the family informing them to remove her from the hospital and take her home to die they would no longer cover her hospital stay, even though she has a morphine drip.....Welcome to Obama care the Democratic answer to debt ...Kill them off so the gov. doesn't have to pay..Same goes for the new PAP and mammogram suggestions ..look at the money they will save delaying paying for these vital tests..

rosco 357


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SSC wrote:Landreu and the Ark. senator voted on party lines tonight, but making statements when the final bill comes down they will not vote in favor of it the way it stands now. What kills me is all this wasted taxpayer money on these ridiculous votes when in the morning the amendments will start and more new taxes added in , it is a friggin Democratic farce.. I honestly would hate to have a serious medical condition right now, the medicare system is already increasing co-pays, and reducing some treatments, insurance companies will and are raising premiums in advance of anticipated pricing by the feds. Meds are being priced off the charts..Heart and diabetic patients are in for the screwing of their lives with their medical needs..Sucks to be them at this time. A friend came by today her aunt has terminal cancer went into the hospital this past Tues. yesterday medicare contacted the family informing them to remove her from the hospital and take her home to die they would no longer cover her hospital stay, even though she has a morphine drip.....Welcome to Obama care the Democratic answer to debt ...Kill them off so the gov. doesn't have to pay..Same goes for the new PAP and mammogram suggestions ..look at the money they will save delaying paying for these vital tests..
i know ppl that have implanted morphine pumps, but,,, as for cancer, back in the 80s, my dad was on teamsters good insurance. but when it comes to a point they cant cure u and ur terminal u have to leave the hospital, as my dad did, and hospice took over,i think hospice takes over when they think u have 6 months left but not positive,, my dad even had a tube coming out of his side for urine, and was on dilaudind i spelled that wrong but its synthetic morphine i think. i called the dr at some late point,, and said that we were not trying to prelong my dads life, but if there were anyway near the end to have him die in the hospital to make it easier on my mom,, but hospice told us its so hard to tell. that sometimes they visit a patient, and the patient dies before they get back to their office..when i asked the dr that, he said maybe he could figure out some way for my dad to be put back in the hospital, but he died at home, which actually turned out ok, medical insurance has been that way for a while, if they cant do anything to cure you , u go home and hospice takes over, my dad had terrible bed sores and as i said the tube in his side, since his tubes to his bladder were closed off by tumors, it was tough.. but even that long ago. his good insurance would not allow him to remain in the hospital..so that is really nothing new.. my dad the last week was on so much pain med he did not even know where he was... gee just typing this brings back such hurt for me..the dr actually told us to stop feeding him since the cancer was getting the nutrients anyway, i dont think he ate anything for the last 4 days, or somewhere close, he talked out of his head, i called the dr and told him that,, he said if possible to cut back on the pain med some... me and my sister were taking turns spending the nite, he died on my sisters nite, about 7 am,, its tough, even now, i miss him so much,, the police came to take up any drugs, but hospice was there quick . and told the police the family would take care of the drugs, after the police left , hospice told us they dont trust the police, my uncle got every bottle and flushed it before they even took my dad away,,,

gypsy


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Exactly Rosco, my Mom went through the same thing
this procedure is not new,when a person is terminal n the hospital can no longer cure them or make them well hospice services take over~

this has nothing to do with scaling back,medicare or care// or anything The democrats are doing` this has been the process for some time

Good Post Rosco..

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