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1 Obama soaks up wilderness on Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:48 pm

gypsy


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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32437886/ns/politics-white_house

sorry Rosco for borrowing your phrase

my words> Oh My God !how beautiful
I have been lots of places,flew over Grand Canyon but have not visually stood an looke at it
Awesome!

Out West, Obama soaks up wilderness
Despite zest for outside recreation, president isn’t an outdoorsman

updated 12:59 p.m. PT, Sun., Aug 16, 2009

GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. - President Barack Obama is hardly the consummate Western outdoorsman.

The Marlboro Man he's not.

He's spent his adult life in big cities — New York, Chicago and, now, Washington. Basketball, golf and bodysurfing are how this jock rolls. Indoor daily gym workouts of cardio exercise and weight training are the norm. Hunting, climbing, rafting — not so much.


Yet there he was on a summer weekend, enthusiastically soaking in America's vast wilderness. He toured Yellowstone National Park, checking out the geyser Old Faithful. He strolled trails along the Grand Canyon's rim. He went fly fishing in a Montana river.

"Pretty nice, eh," Obama said Sunday as the family took in the breathtaking view from the Grand Canyon's Hopi Point under a magnificent blue sky. "Last time I was here was when I was 11 years old." Asked by a ranger if it looked the same, he said, "It does!"

A day earlier at Yellowstone, the first family watched the world's most famous geyser erupt. "Oh, that's pretty good. Cool! Look at that. That's a geyser there," Obama said.

His entourage also traipsed across wooden walkways in the steamy Black Sand Basin, a brilliant-hued hydrothermal spot in the park dotted with hot springs, geysers, mudpots and fumaroles.

Obama game for any activity
With the wonders of his country at his disposal, Obama did things that might seem a little out of his comfort zone. It's safe to say that this Hawaiian-born president has spent more time on beaches and in cities than he has in the mountains of the West.

But this is also a guy who clearly has a zest for recreation and a curiosity about the diverse nation he governs. He seems game for trying just about any sport or activity. He seems intent on broadening his kids' interests and, perhaps, his own.

So it was of little wonder then that he brought his wife, Michelle, and daughters Malia and Sasha, as well as other relatives, including half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng and her young family, on a trip that was part family vacation, part policy promotion.

He held town-hall style events to plug his efforts to overhaul health care. In Belgrade, Mont., he opened with this comment: "Here in Montana you've got bears and moose and elk. In Washington, you have mostly bull. So this is a nice change of pace!"

Obama chuckled at the line. But he clearly was at his happiest when he shed his typical dark business-suit for casual wear — a light jacket for Yellowstone, a golf shirt for the Grand Canyon and hiking sneakers for both — and some quality time with his family.

The president was in jovial spirits from the moment he bounded up the Air Force One stairs at the start of his trip, mock-racing his youngest daughter to the top. He appeared to relish his role as a father as he treated the girls to ice cream at a Yellowstone general store and talked with them about different kinds of rocks above the Grand Canyon.

He showed them sites he saw as a child when he visited national parks, including Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon, with his mother, grandmother and half-sister. At both parks, he peppered rangers with questions and seemed engrossed in the answers.

Obama, aides say, had pressed them for a while to schedule a parks trip. The last Democratic president, Bill Clinton, often vacationed in the West; his pollster used surveys to decide the best place for him to spend his leisure time, politically.

As Obama tended to presidential duties this weekend, his wife and daughters spent 90 minutes whitewater rafting in rain and, at times, hail in Montana and went peach-picking in Colorado, bringing some back for travelers on Air Force One.

"He wants very much to see and share the outdoors and some of the beautiful places in the country with his daughters," press secretary Robert Gibbs said. "He's always tremendously enjoyed being outside with his family."
CONTINUED : Many politicians covet outdoorsy persona
Many politicians covet outdoorsy persona
Since taking office in January, the first family has spent as much time as possible Camp David, the presidential retreat near Thurmont, Md. Obama has reminisced about riding bikes along the lakeshore in Chicago with his children before the presidential campaign made such private moments impossible.

For decades, politicians, and particularly Democrats, have staged events — think Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry in duck-hunting camouflage in 2004 — to show the public they're on the side of outdoorsmen, who tend to be more conservative because of support for gun rights and wariness of the federal government's reach.

Obama refrained from such moments during the campaign. He was known to shun attempts by his advisers to make him to do things that appeared overtly political and were intended to win over specific constituencies such as hunters and anglers.
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Things didn't turn out so well, for example, when he bowled in blue-collar Pennsylvania only to be dogged by his dismal score.

Reporters and photographers were shielded from some of Obama's weekend recreational activities, including his fly fishing experience that advisers called a private event..

In the East Gallatin River near a private residence, Obama spent about two hours in pouring rain and unseasonably chilly temperatures, making good on a campaign promise to learn how to fly fish when he returned to Montana. Locals called it perfect catch-and-release weather.

How'd he do?

Fishing guide Dan Vermillion, who runs the Sweetwater Fly Shop in Livingston, Mont., reported that Obama hooked half a dozen fish but he didn't land any.

But Gibbs, who accompanied Obama, was less diplomatic: "Not as well as he wanted. He was a bit frustrated."

2 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:26 am

rosco 357


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i have my paw - paws, fly rod and reel, its a shakespere my dads dad he died when i was 5, , not sure how old, the rod is its hexagon shape and bamboo, when i was at home the community i was raised in had a big pond, so i went there to practice, i also did some at the lake but the lake was out of the boat as the shore line had to many trees, i only caught some bream at home at the pond but i learned how to fly fish, i cast pretty well, i used a sponge spyder, i had his frog gigs but i dont know where they are , but i have his carbide lamp he wore oh his cap to frog gig, but lights today are so much better, my dad said they would walk at nite down the middle of the creek and see eyes, and would gig about as many snakes as frogs, i have only gone frog shooting with a 22 at the lake years ago, there are to many houses now, back when i was younger the lake was all to me, all woods so i could shoot at nite out of the boat, and my aunt would cook the legs for me for breakfast, just memories,

3 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:41 am

gypsy


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I love Fishing,Rosco.
we go to the smokies, a lot!
when we go next time, I am going to learn fly fishing//
I am definitely, an outdoors woman.. started to say girl..don't think so~

anyway love all outdoor sports/use to horseback ride/wish we still had horses was anxious for the new mwmber to join in//oh well
we play volleyball ,I love it,not very good though,cause I am short, what I do love is horseshoes,I am good at this,softball,I coached for 13 years////just convo starters~~

4 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:55 am

SSC


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I grew up fly fishing at a place called Bennett Springs State Park, Gypsy might know where it is. We fished for rainbow trout. Have had horses all my life and still do. I received a Phys-Ed. scholarship to SMU in high school , I played everything but basketball (I'm 5ft.)LOL...

5 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:20 am

gypsy


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SSC I use to hate being short,I don't anymore,I( played basket ball but only in PE,at about the time we girls were wanting to play competitive// the whatever?? outlawed it for female structure??I found that, BS what is funny I play with my Grands can't compete with physical,as they do//I have one hell of a hook shot,Kareem //LOL

6 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:52 am

rosco 357


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every female in my life , mother, sister .X lol , daughters have all been 5 ft or 5 ft 1 inch, im 5'9" so it worked fine, lol,

7 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:55 am

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:I love Fishing,Rosco.
we go to the smokies, a lot!
when we go next time, I am going to learn fly fishing//
I am definitely, an outdoors woman.. started to say girl..don't think so~

anyway love all outdoor sports/use to horseback ride/wish we still had horses was anxious for the new mwmber to join in//oh well
we play volleyball ,I love it,not very good though,cause I am short, what I do love is horseshoes,I am good at this,softball,I coached for 13 years////just convo starters~~

gyp its not hard, u throw the line not the lure it has a regular leader line on the end but the heavy line u use like a whip kinda, it was easy, to learn,

8 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:00 am

gypsy


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SSC wrote:I grew up fly fishing at a place called Bennett Springs State Park, Gypsy might know where it is. We fished for rainbow trout. Have had horses all my life and still do. I received a Phys-Ed. scholarship to SMU in high school , I played everything but basketball (I'm 5ft.)LOL...
never been Bennett Springs,but will visit it in September when we go//I see you were also athletic~~

9 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:24 am

gypsy


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ssc what I lacked in height,I gained in stealing the ball an assists~Quickness! is that your thought~

10 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:03 am

SSC


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In volleyball I was good at setting up assists , no spiking as height was an issue, track I ran the 440 usually barefooted , I was 3rd base for years in softball , 4 years on the SMU team and continued to play on a mixed team up until 2 years ago, after college I coached soft ball and taught PE for several years . Trampoline was my love , but at my school it was more of a novelty than a sport.

11 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:35 pm

gypsy


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SSC wrote:I grew up fly fishing at a place called Bennett Springs State Park, Gypsy might know where it is. We fished for rainbow trout. Have had horses all my life and still do. I received a Phys-Ed. scholarship to SMU in high school , I played everything but basketball (I'm 5ft.)LOL...

ssc i always pictured you as tall an very athletic looking~ I am short 5''2" but very muscular built LOL I do wish we still had horses. may go buy me one .

12 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:02 pm

gypsy


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rosco 357 wrote:i have my paw - paws, fly rod and reel, its a shakespere my dads dad he died when i was 5, , not sure how old, the rod is its hexagon shape and bamboo, when i was at home the community i was raised in had a big pond, so i went there to practice, i also did some at the lake but the lake was out of the boat as the shore line had to many trees, i only caught some bream at home at the pond but i learned how to fly fish, i cast pretty well, i used a sponge spyder, i had his frog gigs but i dont know where they are , but i have his carbide lamp he wore oh his cap to frog gig, but lights today are so much better, my dad said they would walk at nite down the middle of the creek and see eyes, and would gig about as many snakes as frogs, i have only gone frog shooting with a 22 at the lake years ago, there are to many houses now, back when i was younger the lake was all to me, all woods so i could shoot at nite out of the boat, and my aunt would cook the legs for me for breakfast, just memories,
I also love to eat frog legs
after they are cleaned I dip them in butter milk, dredge them with flour that has salt/pepper,cayenne, skillet fry them in just enough oil ,not deep oil..

I forget how far a 22 bullet can travel i am think likr 1 mile?? we don't shoot the 22 much either

13 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:39 pm

SSC


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We don't shoot frogs we use gigs or our hands, down in the marsh frogs can be any where fron 2-3 lbs in the early season. I have a huge round plastic pool about 3 ft. tall ( it was a catfish tank in my bait shop years ago) Perfect for holding live frogs when we get several hundred frogs everyone comes to clean and have a frog fry. I have a turkey fryer with a basket, you can fry about 40-50 legs at a time. I use an egg wash, then dredge in flour with Tony's , onion and garlic powder and black and white pepper. Fry until golden brown and floating.

14 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:35 pm

runawayhorses


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I never had a frog leg before, but the way you make it, it sounds like it might be good, I just never been in a position to have one. In all seriousness I don't really think I would ever order it at a restaurant, but might try it someday if the oppuritinuity presents itself, like at someones house they were serving it, I might try it then. But it doesn't really appeal to me.

I'm kinda conservative when it comes to food, I don't get too eccentric...lol

15 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:59 pm

gypsy


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SSC wrote:We don't shoot frogs we use gigs or our hands, down in the marsh frogs can be any where fron 2-3 lbs in the early season. I have a huge round plastic pool about 3 ft. tall ( it was a catfish tank in my bait shop years ago) Perfect for holding live frogs when we get several hundred frogs everyone comes to clean and have a frog fry. I have a turkey fryer with a basket, you can fry about 40-50 legs at a time. I use an egg wash, then dredge in flour with Tony's , onion and garlic powder and black and white pepper. Fry until golden brown and floating.
I will try your method SSC sounds Delish..

16 Re: Obama soaks up wilderness on Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:07 pm

rosco 357


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runawayhorses wrote:I never had a frog leg before, but the way you make it, it sounds like it might be good, I just never been in a position to have one. In all seriousness I don't really think I would ever order it at a restaurant, but might try it someday if the oppuritinuity presents itself, like at someones house they were serving it, I might try it then. But it doesn't really appeal to me.

I'm kinda conservative when it comes to food, I don't get too eccentric...lol

lol ur last sentence tickled me, i ordered fog legs once at a restaurant, but most restaurants here do not have them on the menu, i imagine closer to the gulf or where ssc lives the restaurants have more but it seem ssc house is the best place for frog legs, lol and i tried alligator as i have posted and i came close to cooking a rattle snake that was killed at the lake, many years ago, the ppl that killed it cleaned it, and gave me some of the meat, i have always heard it is good, our state in opp alabama use to and maybe still has a snake round up, and ppl that are good at it get rattlesnakes and bring them back in bags to the event then they are cleaned and are eaten by the ppl at the event which was and maybe is very popular, they have it annually. hey tyler frog legs are kinda like chicken with a touch of fish, take care

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