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1 Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:04 pm

rosco 357


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Report: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft AP
posted: 3 HOURS 19 MINUTES AGO Thursday 8/13/09

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WASHINGTON (Aug. 13) - Former Vice President Dick Cheney believes his old boss,
President George W. Bush, gradually turned away from his advice during their second term in the White House, showing a surprising independence as he started taking more flexible positions on a range of issues, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.


Gerald Herbert, AP
Ever since George W. Bush and Dick Cheney left the White House, a more complex portrait of their relationship has emerged. While some have portrayed the former vice president as a puppet master, reports now suggest Cheney was marginalized by his ex-boss during their second term.

Cheney, often described as the most influential vice president in U.S. history, has been discussing his years in office in informal talks with authors, diplomats, policy experts and past colleagues, the Post said, as he works on a memoir due out in 2011 from Simon & Schuster's Threshold Editions.
Robert Barnett, who negotiated Cheney's book contract, passed word to potential publishers that the memoir would be packed with news, said the article published on the Post Web site, and Cheney himself has said, without explanation, that "the statute of limitations has expired" on many of his secrets.
The book will cover Cheney's long career from chief of staff under President Gerald Ford to vice president under Bush.
"When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views."

According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says.
"In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming."
The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S.
What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term.

2 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:05 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Yep i read this, on the msn news this morning, i started to put it here~. Cheney is a whacko case~I personally think he is a very evil human..I said all along cheney was the one pulling the chains/running the country

3 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:55 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
there are things i liked about president Bush , i voted for him. and some things i did not like that well, but i never doubted his heart in most matters was always in the right place, he seemed very tired near the end, and i imagine he is enjoying it all being over,

4 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:19 pm

SSC


Admin
I am sure he is enjoying private life after dealing with the Gypsy's of the world, the silence must be blissfull.

5 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:53 pm

gypsy


Moderator
lol well he put himself in that predicament,I am sure all the gypsy's are glad he is gone, I am for sure>

6 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:01 pm

SSC


Admin
No shit Gyp duhhhhhhhhhhh like we don't know that already...

7 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:05 pm

gypsy


Moderator
well you made the comment I responded..,are you in the fighting mood Tyler said that we have mood buttons now~ lol!

8 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:09 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Yeah we have Mood buttons now, so ya'll start using them I want to see those buttons being used I worked so hard to implement! It took me almost 2 hrs to get that done. :)

Its a feature that is pretty popular with forums and really wanted to add it our forum. Its just an expression feature that I hope everyone will use, its all for fun and expression.

9 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:16 pm

gypsy


Moderator
they look fun! I tried it got a message if your 99 or over message.. I will try again

10 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:26 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
I see you figured it out now, what did you do to make it work this time, just curious. I need to know these things..lol

11 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:27 pm

SSC


Admin
I had to correct my birth year it had a zero and that caused the 99 thing..very cool Tyler,

12 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:29 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Tyler I didn't have my birth year , just a zero

13 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:29 pm

SSC


Admin
gypsy wrote:well you made the comment I responded..,are you in the fighting mood Tyler said that we have mood buttons now~ lol!

Not in a fighting mood at all just regular ole me ..thanks for repeating the info Tyler had already posted...LMAO

14 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:31 pm

gypsy


Moderator
oh your more than welcome Bossy~~ SSC

15 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:45 am

runawayhorses


Owner
I'm currently this morning working on a fix to make it so you don't have to show a birthday year in order to use the Mood buttons. I don't know right now why its tied together, one has nothing to do with the other, but I'll try to figure it out.

16 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:21 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
I need a test run: If someone would do me a favor and go to your profile and delete your birthday year like you had it before (not showing) we'll see if I fixed it, I think I did, but I need conformation. Gypsy or SSC, put your birthday year back to a blank field so its not showing your age and see if the Mood button is still showing up, and then I'll know its fixed or not. Then you can add your birth year back again if you want, but I just need to know if I fixed it. Just the birthday year leave blank and we'll see what happens.

Thanks

17 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:22 pm

gypsy


Moderator
ok I deleted my birth year Tyler it is working:)

18 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:31 pm

runawayhorses


Owner
Well not all of it just the birthday year, if you still want your birthday to show up on the calender leave the day and month, just leave the "Year" blank if you want, or add it.

19 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:20 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy , please change ur quote, it makes me think of when i will die, lmao

20 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:47 pm

gypsy


Moderator
rosco 357 wrote:gypsy , please change ur quote, it makes me think of when i will die,
Really Rosco? ok I will think of something else~

21 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:48 pm

gypsy


Moderator
runawayhorses wrote:Well not all of it just the birthday year, if you still want your birthday to show up on the calender leave the day and month, just leave the "Year" blank if you want, or add it.
Yes I just left the year blank Tyler an it seems to be working..

22 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:59 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
runawayhorses wrote:I'm currently this morning working on a fix to make it so you don't have to show a birthday year in order to use the Mood buttons. I don't know right now why its tied together, one has nothing to do with the other, but I'll try to figure it out.
i had a 0 in my birth year and the mood thing worked for me , if that helps,

23 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:04 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:
rosco 357 wrote:gypsy , please change ur quote, it makes me think of when i will die,
Really Rosco? ok I will think of something else~

u did not do ur quote correct u left off the end brackets and forward slash and the word quote so it did not work, i fixed it,

24 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:15 pm

gypsy


Moderator
Gee Tanks Roscy, your my fixer Yahoo~:)

25 Re: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft on Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:24 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:Gee Tanks Roscy, your my fixer Yahoo~:)

the bill will be in ur mail, lol

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