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runawayhorses


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Are You Willing To Die For Obama's Health Care?


rosco 357


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i think he is out of his element on this one, he does not have a clue how it will work, u all know why i want a back up, but all im saying is my mom was sick for many years and medicare worked great, all im asking is something like that to get on because i will have nothing at all, and that scares me. and i have no idea what will happen with my work, and im scared, take care,

runawayhorses


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I agree rosco, that's why I put a laughing emoticon next to the title. He's just doing everything he can to trash Obama, and at any cost. I hope the plan works, I think this nation needs one.

I post these Manning videos for the comedy, nothing more. :)

rosco 357


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oh i know u post for it being he is funny,he is funny, he wants a name for himself. i wonder how he makes money on this, unless ppl donate to him, take care

runawayhorses


Owner
I don't know, my guess is donations from his church. Posting Youtube videos does not make you money unless you have some sort of deal with youtube management. A certain amount of hits (views) can bring some people money depending if they have a deal with youtube or not. I've heard of music artist getting revenue from hits.

Well, as you know I'm all for Obama's Health Care plan, I think we need something in place so everyone has health care, I'll be the first one to get mine started on the plan if it ever goes into effect, whatever it is I have to do, I'll be the first in line.

rosco 357


Veteran
i was in the nat. guard for 6 years, if i had stayed 14 more,and have 20 years in , i would draw a retirement at 60 yrs,of age, but i dont have va benefits the guard does not get va benefits unless u are activated for i think 6 months, then u get benefits,

runawayhorses


Owner
Right now I don't have any Health Care, nothing. I can't get any either. So if I get really sick I just have to go the hospital and hope they can cure me. Pay out of pocket. It sucks. I used to have good medical coverage when I was working at building supply store chain. but they went under and now since I don't work anymore I can't get coverage. Nothing. I tried SSI but they turned me down, many times they turned me down as they do most everyone. They are idiots who make those decisions. I can't get any medical coverage. But I don't want to get into that too much.

rosco 357


Veteran
i understand completly what u mean..

gypsy


Moderator
My youngest Daughter has scoliosis,it took us three years to get her ssi an partial disability.everything is paid for her medicines, and any doctor'hospital visits.
how some people get it so(help) easy bewilders me.

runawayhorses


Owner
I agree Gypsy, I see people get ssi that arent even deserving, they got lucky somehow and beat the system. What I hate is I'm one of the people that actually should get SSI, I am totally qualified yet I get denied. It's frustrating. Its a bad system and the people running it are uncaring bastards. That's why I hate the system we have now becuase it doesn't work, it isn't fair. People who don't have health problems don't care enough about the issues. They are happy the way thing are and don't think about it. No kidding, I once upon a time didn't care either, but now I'm older I realize we need a serious health care plan in this country for everyone, this isn't right to let people die becuase they can't afford health care. Thats the way it is now, like it or not that's the way it is.

Fuck this whole Obama health care thing, I know it will fail, Obama's plan, we are no farther along then we were 10 years ago. Rich billionaires influence will strike it down, they always do.

I might just move to Canada as I have jokingly said before in the past, I'm sick of this unconcern for people in this country.

If you're rich, great, no better place to live than the US, but if your working class, you're fucked.

It all comes down to our priorities in this country, what means the most to us, as to date, we don't care enough about sick people to help them live, we simply don't care enough, if we did, we'd have a fantastic health care plan, but as you can see, we don't. Its a reflection of our society and how we think.

gypsy


Moderator
This scare tatic from the repubs,is so far out there it is very laughable..

Tyler we finally hired a lawyer, an went before a judge,appointed by the state,a long battle but we won.. for those who really need it, an cannot afford a lawyer, it isn't right..

This health reform is well over due,and the scare tactics the republicans are doing is a sad thing they are shaming their party, and maybe causing permanent mistrust,with the people. they are not in a favorable position, right now.
on another topic this birther thing the repubs are supporting on Obama,all they have to do is look at the birth certificate~~ what a farce that party has become, an once so respected.

rosco 357


Veteran
a lady that worked with my sister , which the dentist does not cover his employees, cant get a private plan because she had a divorce and the dr gave her an antidepressant for not a very long time at all, it was what my mom took but i forget the name. but since she took that she was denied a private insurance coverage, my dr asked if i wanted something to cheer me up some after my divorce, he could tell i was down and i still am at times, but i told him that story, it made him mad that insurance companies would denie, ppl for those reasons, now part of obama plan which will change if it passes,is ppl will get covered with preexisting problems, but there is s along way to go and scare tactics come out from everywhere, some ppl cant see through some of them. 14,000 ppl a day are looseing their healthcare coveage,the ppl in congress have great insurance, and frankly i cant see how they sleep at night, and i have great insurance. but its only one layoff away, if u get layed off where i work, u dont get called back, i have worked for other companies that have that same policy.,, they later just hire some new guy,,

SSC


Admin
If a person needs health insurance their DR. can sign a waiver form about conditions and medications but you have to ask for it. My Dr. does it all the time .
This whole health care mess isn't just Republicans as Gyp would like to think, alot of Democrats are hesitant due to the fact the whole plan has never been written, there are 1700 plus pages right now , e-mail your senators and ask if they have read the whole plan cover to cover, my guess by poll results are less than 20% have actually read it. A national plan has been 40 years in the making and never succeded yet, my concern if what the effects on medicare will be , plus going after the insurance companies to pay higher TAXES will cause a snowball effect and right back down the funnel to the middle income bracket...

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