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1 Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:56 pm

rosco 357


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my words, this is a commentary by Patrick Buchanan. not a news article , but he does base it on reported facts

Has Obama's luck run out?
Posted: July 23, 2009
10:30 pm Eastern
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104833

© 2009

"The sound alone was worth the $24 billion!"

So said fellow Nixon speechwriter Ray Price as the mighty Saturn V rocket lifted Apollo 11 and Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins off the launch pad, three miles away, on the start of their voyage to the moon.

It was a splendid moment in that first year of the Nixon presidency, a year that had gone remarkably well for a minority president who had come to office with both houses held by the opposition.

Within weeks of taking office, Nixon had taken a grand tour of the European capitals. He had proposed a Family Assistance Plan, cooked up in Pat Moynihan's shop, to wide applause. He had announced a withdrawal of 100,000 troops from Vietnam.

He would greet the astronauts on the aircraft carrier in the Pacific on their return, travel to Guam to announce the Nixon Doctrine, journey on to Vietnam and visit the troops, thence to Romania – the first U.S. president to travel behind the Iron Curtain.

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Returning in triumph, Nixon departed for his August vacation.

When he returned to D.C., the storm clouds had gathered.

In mid-October, hundreds of thousands of protesters surrounded the White House demanding an immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, egged on by a media establishment that had cheered JFK and LBJ all the way into liberalism's war.

With David Broder writing of the "breaking of the president," Nixon went on national television to implore the "great silent majority" to stand with him for peace with honor in Vietnam.

The networks trashed the speech. But Vice President Spiro Agnew launched a counter-attack on media power and prejudice. By December, after another 500,000 had marched on Washington, Nixon was at 68 percent approval and Agnew, after Nixon and Billy Graham, was the third most admired man in America.

Though elected in November 1968, it was November 1969 that made the Nixon presidency and produced the New Majority Republicans would rely on for decades. Obama is approaching such a moment of truth.

The universal health insurance plans being advanced all appear too complex, costly and non-credible to pass both houses. The cap-and-trade carbon emissions bill, with its huge costs to be passed on to U.S. producers and consumers, as China opts out, seems an act of national masochism.

The $787 billion stimulus bill has done zip to stimulate the economy. Less than 10 percent of the money has gone out the door, which makes one wonder why it was called a stimulus package. Unemployment is at 9.5 percent, well above what the Obamaites predicted, and rising.

As worrisome is the situation in Afghanistan. The United States has 66,000 troops in country or on the way, as our NATO allies look for the exit ramp. We are seven and a half years in and the Afghan army is not remotely capable of defending the nation or regime.

Afghanistan is now Obama's war. He made the decision to deepen U.S. involvement as we headed out of Iraq. Yet, it is unclear how many U.S. troops will be needed, for how long, to create a stable government and army that can secure the national territory and prevent a return of al-Qaida.

Moreover, Kabul continues to protest U.S. air strikes that continue to kill civilians, as Pakistan protests the Marine offensive in Helmand that is driving the Taliban into Baluchistan, where a secessionist movement is developing.

Pakistan also seems more worried about shifting its army away from the border with India than about defeating an Afghan Taliban with whom it had a working relationship before 9/11.

We are thus today pushing the Afghan regime to do what it is not capable of doing and the Pakistani government and army into doing what it would prefer not to do. This does not appear a formula for victory.

Also looming is the issue of Iran's nuclear program.

Obama has moved up from December to September the deadline for serious discussions to begin. If they have not begun by October, will Obama go to the U.N. for sanctions? If the Russians and Chinese object, will Obama and NATO impose sanctions of their own? Will Obama step on an escalator leading inexorably to war? Or authorize Israel to launch an attack?

Does Obama have the authority to take us to war against a nation that has not attacked us? If so, where did he get this authority? While Congress would readily agree to sanctions, would it sign off on yet another war?

From North Korea to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Honduras, and from the economy to health care to carbon emissions, things are not going Obama's way. He is 10 points below where Nixon was after a full year, and on economic issues – unemployment, the deficit, spending – he is under 50 percent.

This presidency is not yet in trouble, but it is sure headed that way.

2 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:18 pm

gypsy


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My opinion of Pat <>Thumbs Down!

3 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:26 pm

rosco 357


Veteran
why , everything he said makes perfect since, he told of how history was, and the truth about problems we face, is all he did. just wait and see, as he said about nixon, clouds are forming, u wait and u will see, he did nothing but point out statistics.all these other countrys opinions like the taliban crossing over into pakistan as we have the offensive in south Afghanistan has already been in the news, he just pointed out what is happening,

4 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:32 pm

gypsy


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don't like Pat, never did, he is an alarmist,fear monger, plays on it, dark side,pessimist.. with no degree.
sure you can comment on what has already happened~

5 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:57 pm

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:don't like Pat, never did, he is an alarmist,fear monger, plays on it, dark side,pessimist.. with no degree.
sure you can comment on what has already happened~

MY WORDS:you said with no degree, aparently u have not kept up with his past in politics, here is a part of his work and education, u will notice his masters degree at the bottom of the article, plus i always like to hear him laugh as he does alot on shows, his coments of the past are to reflect on what may come of the upcoming events is what he was doing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

Patrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan (born November 2, 1938) is an American conservative political commentator, author, syndicated columnist, politician and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior advisor to American presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and was an original host on CNN's Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election.

He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause.[1] He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. He is currently a political commentator on the MSNBC cable network including the show Morning Joe and a regular on The McLaughlin Group.

Buchanan was born on November 2, 1938, in Washington, D.C., a son of Catherine Elizabeth (née Crum) (Charleroi, Washington County, Pennsylvania, December 23, 1911 – Oakton, Fairfax County, Virginia, September 18, 1995), a nurse and a homemaker, and William Baldwin Buchanan (Virginia, August 15, 1905 – Washington, D.C., January 1988), a partner in an accounting firm, who married on December 28, 1936.[2][3] Buchanan had six brothers (Brian, Henry, James, John, Thomas, and William Jr.) and two sisters (Kathleen Theresa and Angela Marie, nicknamed Bay).[4] Bay served as U.S. Treasurer under Ronald Reagan. Buchanan has English, German, Scots Irish, and Irish ancestry.[2] He had a great-grandfather who fought in the American Civil War on the Confederate side. He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans[5] and admires Robert E. Lee.[6]

Buchanan was baptized into the Catholic Church and attended Blessed Sacrament School, the Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School, and Georgetown University.

While studying at Georgetown Buchanan served in ROTC and received his draft notice in 1960. However, a District of Columbia draft board rejected him from military service due to reactive arthritis, declaring him 4-F. After Georgetown, Buchanan earned a master's degree in journalism from Columbia in 1962. He wrote his master's project at Columbia on the expanding trade between Canada and Cuba.

Buchanan married White House staffer Shelley Ann Scarney in 1971. They have no children.[

6 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:12 pm

gypsy


Moderator
sorry, nothing he has stated impresses me,he is another Newt Gingrich>> nothing I have read imprress me~



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7 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:12 pm

SSC


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I will take Pats word any time, he is one of the most level headed there is. There is no alarming, just cold hard facts.
Good article Rosco cheers

8 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:18 pm

gypsy


Moderator
he needs to retire >>Pat
Buchanan he is old hat!

9 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:21 pm

gypsy


Moderator
rosco 357 wrote:
gypsy wrote:don't like Pat, never did, he is an alarmist,fear monger, plays on it, dark side,pessimist.. with no degree.
sure you can comment on what has already happened~

MY WORDS:you said with no degree, aparently u have not kept up with his past in politics, here is a part of his work and education, u will notice his masters degree at the bottom of the article, plus i always like to hear him laugh as he does alot on shows, his coments of the past are to reflect on what may come of the upcoming events is what he was doing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

Patrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan (born November 2, 1938) is an American conservative political commentator, author, syndicated columnist, politician and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior advisor to American presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and was an original host on CNN's Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election.

He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause.[1] He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. He is currently a political commentator on the MSNBC cable network including the show Morning Joe and a regular on The McLaughlin Group.

Buchanan was born on November 2, 1938, in Washington, D.C., a son of Catherine Elizabeth (née Crum) (Charleroi, Washington County, Pennsylvania, December 23, 1911 – Oakton, Fairfax County, Virginia, September 18, 1995), a nurse and a homemaker, and William Baldwin Buchanan (Virginia, August 15, 1905 – Washington, D.C., January 1988), a partner in an accounting firm, who married on December 28, 1936.[2][3] Buchanan had six brothers (Brian, Henry, James, John, Thomas, and William Jr.) and two sisters (Kathleen Theresa and Angela Marie, nicknamed Bay).[4] Bay served as U.S. Treasurer under Ronald Reagan. Buchanan has English, German, Scots Irish, and Irish ancestry.[2] He had a great-grandfather who fought in the American Civil War on the Confederate side. He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans[5] and admires Robert E. Lee.[6]

Buchanan was baptized into the Catholic Church and attended Blessed Sacrament School, the Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School, and Georgetown University.

While studying at Georgetown Buchanan served in ROTC and received his draft notice in 1960. However, a District of Columbia draft board rejected him from military service due to reactive arthritis, declaring him 4-F. After Georgetown, Buchanan earned a master's degree in journalism from Columbia in 1962. He wrote his master's project at Columbia on the expanding trade between Canada and Cuba.

Buchanan married White House staffer Shelley Ann Scarney in 1971. They have no children.[
yesI have kept up no OOMPH

10 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:28 pm

gypsy


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gypsy wrote:
rosco 357 wrote:
gypsy wrote:don't like Pat, never did, he is an alarmist,fear monger, plays on it, dark side,pessimist.. with no degree.
sure you can comment on what has already happened~

MY WORDS:you said with no degree, aparently u have not kept up with his past in politics, here is a part of his work and education, u will notice his masters degree at the bottom of the article, plus i always like to hear him laugh as he does alot on shows, his coments of the past are to reflect on what may come of the upcoming events is what he was doing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

Patrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan (born November 2, 1938) is an American conservative political commentator, author, syndicated columnist, politician and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior advisor to American presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and was an original host on CNN's Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election.

He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause.[1] He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. He is currently a political commentator on the MSNBC cable network including the show Morning Joe and a regular on The McLaughlin Group.

Buchanan was born on November 2, 1938, in Washington, D.C., a son of Catherine Elizabeth (née Crum) (Charleroi, Washington County, Pennsylvania, December 23, 1911 – Oakton, Fairfax County, Virginia, September 18, 1995), a nurse and a homemaker, and William Baldwin Buchanan (Virginia, August 15, 1905 – Washington, D.C., January 1988), a partner in an accounting firm, who married on December 28, 1936.[2][3] Buchanan had six brothers (Brian, Henry, James, John, Thomas, and William Jr.) and two sisters (Kathleen Theresa and Angela Marie, nicknamed Bay).[4] Bay served as U.S. Treasurer under Ronald Reagan. Buchanan has English, German, Scots Irish, and Irish ancestry.[2] He had a great-grandfather who fought in the American Civil War on the Confederate side. He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans[5] and admires Robert E. Lee.[6]

Buchanan was baptized into the Catholic Church and attended Blessed Sacrament School, the Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School, and Georgetown University.

While studying at Georgetown Buchanan served in ROTC and received his draft notice in 1960. However, a District of Columbia draft board rejected him from military service due to reactive arthritis, declaring him 4-F. After Georgetown, Buchanan earned a master's degree in journalism from Columbia in 1962. He wrote his master's project at Columbia on the expanding trade between Canada and Cuba.

Buchanan married White House staffer Shelley Ann Scarney in 1971. They have no children.[
yesI have kept up no OOMPH
all Repub that would be good then,*maybe*,but jeeze!! LQQk now

11 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:26 am

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:sorry, nothing he has stated impresses me,he is another Newt Gingrich>> nothing I have read imprress me~

then u are not impressed with what is happening in the world, he just pointed out for the most part what is happening as reported in the new, he was senior advisor to 3 presidents, thats big stuff, and ronald reagans senior advisor, when russia was brought down and the wall in germany was taken down, he know history and can read the events that may i say may come, if u dont agree with him fine but he knows alot as he has lived events of great importance.

12 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:31 am

rosco 357


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'gypsy said he had no degree', then said she does keep up, well apparently she does not as to his masters degree in journalism was my main point and his enormous experience in the world events, during 3 presidents,

13 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:34 am

gypsy


Moderator
no I am not impressed with Patrick.
an nothing he says has anything to do with the world.

he is a fanatic nut
hold back !!no degree with the public

14 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:38 am

gypsy


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rosco 357 wrote:'gypsy said he had no degree', then said she does keep up, well apparently she does not as to his masters degree in journalism was my main point and his enormous experience in the world events, during 3 presidents,
Is nothing what he has said he is only an analyst

15 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:40 am

gypsy


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gypsy wrote:
rosco 357 wrote:'gypsy said he had no degree', then said she does keep up, well apparently she does not as to his masters degree in journalism was my main point and his enormous experience in the world events, during 3 presidents,
Is nothing what he has said he is only an analyst
ok degree in what? ok journalism big deal??

16 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:46 am

rosco 357


Veteran
lol ok i will admit he is not GOD< but he was senior advisor to 3 let me say it again 3 presidents, including probably one of the most respected presidents ronald reagan, can u say" MR. Gorbachev tear down this wall",he was his advisor, he has 10 time the foreign experience as our now president, is all im saying and he see things that may come, but just wait we will see, i will not comment on this again, lol .. good grief,

17 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:57 am

gypsy


Moderator
although I loved him
the problem/now ,started with him~sorry to say ,no he is not according to history

18 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:09 am

rosco 357


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gypsy wrote:although I loved him
the problem/now ,started with him~

oh bull shit it probably went back to the first republican president, lol... can anyone say jimmy carter, lol, a dem with double digit inflation, there has been many recessions come and go since reagan. reagan used words to explain reality, obama uses words to hide from reality,

19 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:18 am

gypsy


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Check check it out !! I love Ronald, but some of this now started with Reaganomics

20 Re: Has Obama's luck run out? on Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:16 am

rosco 357


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thats to far back to prove anything. it would only be a biased opinion,

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