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1 Congress laying groundwork on Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:15 pm

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31905635/ns/politics-more_politics


House lays groundwork for CIA probe
Panel asks for documents about al-Qaida effort, officials say


updated 2:37 p.m. PT, Tues., July 14, 2009

WASHINGTON - The House Intelligence Committee has asked the CIA to provide documents about the now-canceled program to target al-Qaida leaders, congressional officials said Tuesday. The move is a precursor to what will almost certainly become a full-blown investigation into the secret operation and why the program was not disclosed to Congress, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

CIA Director Leon Panetta told Congress on June 24 that he had canceled the effort to kill al-Qaida leaders with hit teams soon after learning about the operation. Panetta also told lawmakers that former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA not to inform Congress of the specifics of the secret program.

Intelligence officials say the operation never progressed passed a planning stage and therefore didn't merit congressional notification.
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President George W. Bush authorized the killing of al-Qaida leaders in 2001. Congress was aware of that notification.

A congressional official said the secret CIA program was meant to carry out ground attacks. Most attempts to kill al-Qaida's leaders, believed to be hiding in Pakistan's troubled western border region, have used armed drone aircraft because it is difficult terrain controlled by sometimes hostile tribes. But those strikes have sometimes killed and injured innocent civilians and caused outrage in Pakistan.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, is expected to decide as early as Tuesday whether to press ahead with a full investigation into the CIA operation.

The House Intelligence Committee will try to establish how much was spent on the effort, whether any training was conducted, and whether there was any officials traveled in associated with the program, a committee official said.

Those factors would determine whether the program had progressed enough to warrant congressional notification, the official said.

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said Monday that the CIA's failure to brief congress violated the law.


Ex-CIA boss: Congress knew about spying

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., the senior GOP member of the committee, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he would support an investigation. But from what he knows now, Hoekstra said, he does not believe the effort merited congressional notification.

Like many other Republicans, Hoekstra believes the Democratic anger about not being notified of the program sooner is meant to bolster House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who came under an avalanche of GOP criticism in May for saying she believes the CIA lied to her about its harsh interrogation program in 2002.

The House has delayed floor debate on an intelligence bill that would require the president to expand the number of members of Congress briefed on covert operations_ that is, secret missions undertaken in foreign countries to affect their political, military or economic situation.

The White House has threatened to veto that bill if it includes the notification requirement. Current law allows the president to notify top members in the House and Senate and on the intelligence committees on the most sensitive operations.

2 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:40 pm

SSC


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Like many other Republicans, Hoekstra believes the Democratic anger about not being notified of the program sooner is meant to bolster House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who came under an avalanche of GOP criticism in May for saying she believes the CIA lied to her about its harsh interrogation program in 2002.


BINGO....lets help Nancy cover her ass with a diversion...

3 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:59 pm

gypsy


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I guess we will soon see , to many things popping up about cheney and the Bush era.. understanding is the vice president has no power to order the cia to do anything~ he is hiding now, but the last two months he was mouthing,

4 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:03 pm

SSC


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Cheney isn't hiding he has been on a speaking tour, his daughter has also spoken out on how totally ridiculous this whole investigation is. THe majority of records are classified so they will not be released anyway, to many big mouths as usual.

5 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:07 pm

gypsy


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as I said we shall see. I am sure if he were on speaking tour he could be reached by the media.he had no authority to address CIA according to the law/constitution, or to keep secrets from Congress.

6 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:28 pm

SSC


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Whatever

7 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:47 pm

gypsy


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yeppers

8 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:26 pm

rosco 357


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i dont understand the part of targeting head terrorist. heck we are doing that now, the preditors have found many of them and killed them, if im not mistaken the predator camera pics are viewed in real time from the united states, and a decision to have the preditor let lose hellfire rockets, i think it works on face recognition , but i could look it up, and im sure some intel as to where leader may be at, but i think the optics on the predator drones are awesome, and have killed many leaders, even the terrorist have commented on this, they fly 24 /7 and stay in one spot for hours.. in Afghanistan and pakistan

9 Re: Congress laying groundwork on Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:35 pm

gypsy


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that is a remarkable weapon.stops lot of hand to hand combat also,I would think.

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