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UK: Birth of 13-year-old dad's child sparks outrage
Birth of child fathered by a 13-year-old boy sparks an uproar in Britain

Alfie Patten was only 12 when the baby was conceived, according to reports

Chantelle Steadman, 15, his girlfriend, gave birth to baby on Monday

(CNN) -- The birth of a child fathered by a 13-year-old boy has sparked an uproar in Britain.
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British Conservative party leader David Cameron has expressed his dismay over the case.

Alfie Patten, who was only 12 when the baby was conceived with his girlfriend, Chantelle Steadman, 15, was first pictured on the front of Friday's tabloid Sun newspaper with his daughter, Maisie Roxanne, after her birth Monday.

He told the newspaper that he thought "it would be good to have a baby."

"I didn't think about how we would afford it. I don't really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me 10. When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried about how people would react. I didn't know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it."

Chantelle, meanwhile, said, "I'm tired after the birth. I was nervous after going into labor, but otherwise I was quite excited."

She later told the Sun that they wanted to "prove to everyone" that they could give Maisie a "great future" and said both of them planned to stay in school.

The Sun reported that police had investigated but said they were not going to prosecute, as it was "not in anyone's interests."

Conservative party leader David Cameron told the British Press Association that parenthood should not be something the teenagers should even have been contemplating.

Former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, told PA that the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes."

"It's not being accusative; it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong.

"There is no opprobrium any more about behavior, and quite often, children witness behavior that's aggressive, violent, rude and sexual. It's as if no one is saying this is wrong."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said "all of us would want to avoid teenage pregnancies," PA reported.

Tony Kerridge, of the sexual health specialist Marie Stopes International, told PA that children needed better education.

"We have got the social aspect of young girls in the UK seeing having a baby as a route to getting their own place," he said.

London's The Times newspaper reported Saturday that in the past decade, more than 40 other boys younger than 14 had fathered children.

The UK has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe: 385 girls under the age of 14 became pregnant between 1998 and 2007.

rosco 357


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europe has always been on he brink of problems, only this time we cant come to the rescue, its a model of socialism,

rosco 357


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europe has always been on he brink of problems, only this time we cant come to the rescue, its a model of socialism,

rosco 357


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gee that must have been a good post, lol, it posted twice, lol

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They interviewed this boy and when asked how is was going to SUPPORT.. this child he didn't even know the meaning of the word. We have these problems here also but they do seem a tad bit more behind the times.

gypsy


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is that a fact? or Opinion?

SSC


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Is what a fact or opinion Gypsy ?????

gypsy


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so since you posted this, what do you suppose as a solution? don't you think it is the parents fault?

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No I don't think it is the parents fault, as parents we can only instill a set of values in children, how much they absorb is on them.

gypsy


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I disagree~it is our fault ,we do not instill the values we were taught

( I see much difference in,our kids, and grandkids it is parents, and both working, also entertainment as games,

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You will not tie kids down with games unless they are video games, the WI, X-box Play station , and texting on phones , times have changed , not saying morals have but with sex-ed in school, and parenting at home you can only get so much thru a kid , the rest is on them.

gypsy


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yes! morals have changed, canU honestly say they haven't?

we need to stress rules,get our kids involved in other things,outside physical games..

Yes it is our fault~~

SSC


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It would be great if it was as simple as outside games, but with the infulence of television, videos, and music there is very slim chance to guide children in reverse, times have changed and parents have to adjust and regroup in order to encourage children to act in a positive manner.

rosco 357


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i know it happens here, but i think these 2 sentences are a lot of the problem, it makes parents job alot harder when u live in a country with laws and rules like this,,


Former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, told PA that the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes."


"We have got the social aspect of young girls in the UK seeing having a baby as a route to getting their own place," he said.

15 Ya beat me to it,Roscoe. on Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:57 pm

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"Former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, told PA that the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes." (Maybe now she can move to California and have 13 more. Just trash acting like trash.)

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meemoon wrote:"Former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, told PA that the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes." (Maybe now she can move to California and have 13 more. Just trash acting like trash.)

lol i love that., so true i forgot that, i know the kids need help and cant be left to fate. but i hate to see someone have a lot of kids and then make a mint off them from all the free stuff they get, now she may i don't know , but i did read, that in this case some companies want no part of it. as it was so irresponsible of her, but im sure some companies will come forward, good post marc, putting things into perspective,

gypsy


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what i think is awful, the woman who had six implants and now has total of twelve children? i might have the info on amount wrong ..She is not married ,who feeds and takes care of those children? I think she also stated she doesn't have a job!!,

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rosco 357 wrote:
meemoon wrote:"Former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who runs the Centre for Social Justice think tank, told PA that the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes." (Maybe now she can move to California and have 13 more. Just trash acting like trash.)

lol i love that., so true i forgot that, i know the kids need help and cant be left to fate. but i hate to see someone have a lot of kids and then make a mint off them from all the free stuff they get, now she may i don't know , but i did read, that in this case some companies want no part of it. as it was so irresponsible of her, but im sure some companies will come forward, good post marc, putting things into perspective,
She won't be offered amy endorsement contracts, but expect a co-written,paperback book. She'll make some money.

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Gypsy the woman has 14 kids now after the eight she just had, she has two sets of triplets from in vitro also, it was reported she is getting death threats since the state of California is footing the bill, 3 of her other children have disabilities , she already received a hefty check but now they are considering removing the children, she lives with her parents in a 3 bedroom house, during her pregnancy she received $167,000 in disability money from comp. suits.

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Pubescents Battle Over Who Fathered Teen's Baby
Monday , February 16, 2009
www.foxnews.com

At least three teens are claiming to be the father of a baby girl born to a 15-year-old, after one of them was reported to be the youngest father in Britain.

Alfie Patten, 13, was first reported to be the father of Chantelle Steadman's week-old daughter Maisie, and didn't doubt he was until now, the U.K.'s Telegraph newspaper reported.

"Now that is in his mind and I'm not happy," his mother Nicola Patten, 43, told the newspaper. "I don't know where they get this from. I mean, that's my son, that's his baby."

Alfie, then 12, and Chantelle routinely were allowed to share a bed, but others, including 14-year-old Tyler Barker and 16-year-old Richard Goodsell, also claim they had sex with the girl.

"I slept with Chantelle in her bed about nine months ago and I'm really worried I could be the father," Barker told The Telegraph.

Max Clifford, a publicist representing Alfie and his family, said they've decided a DNA test is the best way to resolve the paternity issue.

"It is inevitable there are going to be doubts, particularly with the number of boys who've come forward claiming to have had sex with Chantelle," Clifford told the paper.

Chantelle and her family insist Alfie is the only boyfriend she had, and that the other boys are lying, The Telegraph reported.

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Can this possibly get any more sordid and trashy?

SSC


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It is pathetic but happening everywhere.

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