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SSC


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Obama has one way out to even have hopes of running again in 4 years and that is for this plan to work. If it fails and we sink deeper then he may not even get his 4 years. To me his choices in cabinet members has been of great embarrassment already, is he in so much of a rush he doesn't do back ground research ?? Just throw a name in the hat, and hold his breath. Is this the marks of a man who is to run this country, making snap decisions.

SSC


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Gypsy in the article Winners and Losers of the stimulas I posted.

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:Railroad money?? SSC said?? I am lost~

read her post on the winners and loosers of the stimulus, amtrak , new highspeed rail and money for transit, she broke it down the first house money , the senate money, and how it changed in committee, it seemed to have increased if i read correct, we will get work from that if its not to late, for me, i may be layed off, and as my boss said most ppl in this business when layed off dont get to come back, i just pray i can stay and the money get flowing , we dont do amtrak now but they are not satisfied with who they have now, and i think even before this, we had a shot at getting back in the click with amtrak, we should get work with the highspeed rail, but again, my die may be cast already, the co president was here last week, the vice president comes this week, my boss says he is the one to pull the trigger, other plants have already layed off, i dont know what i will do, its not pretty, take care

gypsy


Moderator
Rosco your babbling,as I see it has nothing to do with my post~~ take care LOL

SSC


Admin
Gypsy that was down right rude on your part, if you stop and read what Rosco said he let you know the info on the railroad was in an earlier post I had made which we both tried to point out to you.

gypsy


Moderator
I apologize Rosco..

gypsy


Moderator
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfjan09/nf013109-1.htm

I found this on veterans




RUMOR CONTROL: THERE IS NO "OBAMA PLAN" TO

CUT VETERANS' BENEFITS -- Widely-circulated

email wrongly tells of "Obama plan" to "assault"

veteran and military healthcare benefits

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:I apologize Rosco..

ok i did not see this i had left for the nite,ur post (u said railroad , im lost ?) or words to that effect, i was trying to explain how the large amount of amtrak, highspeed rail money and transit money, ( which includes railroad work, might help save my job, i just now saw ur post,

SSC


Admin
[quote="gypsy"]http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfjan09/nf013109-1.htm

I found this on veterans




RUMOR CONTROL: THERE IS NO "OBAMA PLAN" TO

CUT VETERANS' BENEFITS -- Widely-circulated

email wrongly tells of "Obama plan" to "assault"

veteran and military healthcare benefits[/quote


It wasn't an e-mail, it was from a news site that was reporting on the cuts to the stimulus package before approval, check it out for yourself, the link is on the post.

gypsy


Moderator
well from what I read it hasn't even been signed by Obama, yet.or is not Being signed till Tuesday, IS THIS RIGHT? and the veterans news letter states no cuts for the veterans~

36 VA losers on Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:16 am

SSC


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Losers


Veterans: Nearly all items for Veterans Affairs were reduced and the $2 billion the Senate wanted for VA construction was wiped out altogether. The VA did get one thing: $1 billion for medical facilities renovation and retooling.


Military construction: Cut and put into a general pot, a change from targeted money for each branch of the services. Army construction alone went from $600 million in the Senate and $900 million in the House to $180 million in the final bill. But negotiators compromised over a general military construction fund -- the House wanted $3.75 billion while the Senate allocated $118 million and settled on $1.45 billion for all services.

This is the final cut Gypsy..check when your veterans article was written

gypsy


Moderator
January 31st 2009

rosco 357


Veteran
gypsy wrote:well from what I read it hasn't even been signed by Obama, yet.or is not Being signed till Tuesday, IS THIS RIGHT? and the veterans news letter states no cuts for the veterans~

i take it by approval ssc ment congressinal approval as it has many parts that have to come together, mainly 3 , house version, senate version, then committee final combination approval version that goes back to the house and senate for final vote, yes Tuesday, is signing day, but that's not approval, the approval was the vote on the committee version vote, that won easy in the house but only by a one vote on bringing it to closure, in the senate, the senate vote was easy once it passed closure, which means filibuster, it takes 60 votes to bring it to closure for a vote, the dems had 57 , Arlen spector, Olympia Snow of Maine and the other female senator from main voted with the dems, on the closure vote, which made 60 so insured final passage,, i for one hope and prays it works because if obama's ideas fail we all will fail and it will be hard, so i pray it works, no matter the party, thats not an issue, survival of ppls jobs are, i just read, actually Europe is in worse shape than we are in, so i pray for them also,,,i may be wrong but i think that is what i read about Europe, take care

gypsy


Moderator
I do also Rosco,I pray it works.. thanks for the explanation` als thanks for the reply to my apology~

SSC


Admin
gypsy wrote:January 31st 2009

Your article was written before the votes as rosco explained. I above anyone hope the veterans get a fair shake in this ,but we are very lucky with good VA hospitals in the state and a pilot hospital 5 miles away, the care is excellent.

Guest


Guest
rosco 357 wrote:i agree, i wonder how they elected her speaker of the house after a long history of great ppl, i know many did not like him but take "tip oneal," agree with him or not, he was a leader, she cant compair to a figure in history like him,
I read Tip's auto-biog. A no excuses liberal who got the job done. Those progressive bills that we can be happy with in our lifetime can be attributed to Tip O'Neil.

Guest


Guest
SSC wrote:Obama has one way out to even have hopes of running again in 4 years and that is for this plan to work. If it fails and we sink deeper then he may not even get his 4 years. To me his choices in cabinet members has been of great embarrassment already, is he in so much of a rush he doesn't do back ground research ?? Just throw a name in the hat, and hold his breath. Is this the marks of a man who is to run this country, making snap decisions.
SSC, I'm no economist but there are some basics we can all understand. The value of our currency is based not on gold,but on our aggragate assets. The value of our real estate lost 12 TRILLION dollars in value in two years. There is NO WAY we can grow the American economy fast enough to fill that hole back up. The talking heads say that if we have less than 10% unemployment by Jan 1,2011, we will be on the way to recovery. If not, Obama will be seen as a failure. The sick part? It won't even be his fault any more than this current situation is Bush's fault. It is OUR fault. England devalued their currency in the early 50's and got away with it. Mexico did the same when the oil boom collapsed in 95 and got away with it (sort of). But we don't have that option. If the USA were to devalue the dollar,it would allow us to flood the economy with 50cent dollars and fill that hole,but it would ruin the world economy and we would have a true,world wide depression. The situation is almost hopeless. The gamblers (Congress) are back at the table trying to chase bad bets. If you've been to the casinos, you know what I mean. It almost never works.

SSC


Admin
Moon again you are right on track with a good explanation, thanks for the breakdown. makes understanding so much easier..

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